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Batman1 Group: Members  Joined: 25th Nov, 2011  Topic: 3  Post: 354  Age:  26  
Posted on:5th Apr 2012, 12:42pm
 

Grammar

Ulta choar qotowal ko dantay :P

Meray bhai yeh to aap ka dawa tha k jahan bhi jamah ka sigha hota hai wahan murad jamah hi hota hai,mein ne to aap ko pehlay hi bata diya tha k quran mein wahid k liye bhi jamah ka sigha istemal kiya hai aur aap bholay badshah ne uss ka mujh se saboot manga tha aur ab jab mein ne saboot de diya to ulta mujh se hi sawal kernay lag gaye ??

Janab yeh sawal to meray hain k agar aap jamah k sigha ko jamah hi mantay hain to phir Allah k baray mein aap ka kiya aqeeda hai k Allah ne bhi apnay liye jamah ka sigha use kiya hai...

Ab meray bhai jawab aap ne dena hai na k ulta mujh per apna aqeeda thonp ker mujh se sawal kernay lag jao...

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yar apko jhoot bolny ki bimari hy kia?? aap takreeban hr post men meri taraf jhuty reply mansoob krty huay nazar aa rahy ho
meny kahan or kis post men yeh kaha hy k jahan bhi jamah ka sigha hota hai wahan murad jamah hi hota hai???
mera dawa yeh hy k jahan bhi Noun ki jamah use hoti hy us sy muraad ek sy zaida log hoty hen or jahan bhi Pronoun ki jama use hoti hy wahan yah to ek sy zaida log hoty hen ya wahid k lay hi pronoun ka siga use hota hy
or woh bhi izat o azmat k liay jesy urdu men Hum ka word use kia jata hy..
itni si baat apko samajh nahi aa rahi mujhy bar bar yeh dohrana par rha hy..

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Yeh lo janab apna aqeeda ab mujh per thonp ker bhaag rahay hain aap :P

Aap aik dafa previous posts ko dobara perhein to aap ko samajh aa jaye gi k yeh baat mein ne sabit ki thi k
Allah ne apnay liye jamah ka sigha use kiya hai jab k woh wahid hai phir aap ne uss ka proof manga mein ne woh
de diya phir aap ne wahid sigha ka proof manga woh bhi aap ko mil gaya,ab jawab aap ko dena tha iss baat ka na
k ulta mujh se sawal kernay thay...yeh sawal mera tha k agar aap perda mein jamah k sigha se jamah hi murad letay hain to phir yahan aap kiya murad lein ge,jab k mein ne aap ko kaha tha k Allah ne wahid k jamah ka sigha use kiya hai Quran mein...

Ab aap achay bachon ki terha unn sawalon ka khud hi jawab dein jo aap ne mujh per sawal kiye hain kiun k yeh sawal aap k aqeeda k liye hain na k meray aqeeda k liye kiun k mein ne to already keh diya tha k Allah ne Quran mein wahid k liye bhi jamah ka sigha use kiya hai....

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aap meri pichli post bhool jaty hen ya woh aapko nazar aaana band ho jati hey??

meny kaha tha k beti ki jama betian use hua hy iska matlab hy k ek sy ziada beti hy

aapny aitraaz kai k Allah ney bhi apny liay jamaa ki sikga lgaya hy to Allah ko bhi ek sy zaida maan len... sahi kaha na meny

Allah wala aitraaz aapny kia tha na meny to nahi kia tha lakin meny Quran ki ayat sy yeh sabit kia k Allah ney iska jawab Quran hi men dia hy k Allah ek hy.
ab iska matlab k Quran men grammar ki galti hy ya mera mokaf sahi hy k jahan Allah ny apny liay Pronoun ki Jamaa use ki hy jisy urdu men Hum hota hy uska meny kaha k woh Allah ney Apni izaat o azmat k liay Hum use kia hy jesy koi nawab ya koi badshah ya koi aam insaan bhi kabhi kabhi urdu men MAIN ki jaga HUm use krta hy .. halany Allah ek hi hy or banda bhi ek hi hota hy...

aapny iska inkaar kia or kaha k Allah ney kahan farmaya hy k meny Hum apni izat k laiy use kia hy ... sahi kaha na meny ??

to meny iska jawab Shia ki site sy dia jis pr baat krny ki aapki himat nahi hui
to yeh dusri condition bani k Allah ney apni ezat o azmat ko dikhany k liay use kia hy jiska aapny inkaar kia...
meny aapsy ayat lanay ka kaha to kia aap koi aesi ayat ly kr aay jis men Allah ney apny Name ki jamaa use ki ho jo k noun hy or jesa parday wali ayat men beti ki jama use ki use ki??
aap khud ayat ley kr aay lakin us men kia nikla??
aap bewakufon ki tarhan fata fat ayat ly aaye or khush hony lag gay lakin aapki akal men phir bhi yeh baat nahi aaye k Allah ney un ayat men Pronoun ki jamah ya pornoun ki wahid use ki hy apny lia .. jesy MAIN or HUM

aab aaty hen apky is aitraaz pr k men agar pardy wali ayat men jamma k sigay sy jammah hi muraad leta hun to Allah k jamah walay sigay sy kia muraad lun ga to yeh hi aapki sub sy bari galti hy kiun k mera mokaf tha k pardy wali ayat men word Noun hy jiska matlab beti hota hy or iski jamaa betian hen or
beti ek sy zaida thin is liay word BEti nahi balky BEtian use kia .. theek hy na yahan tak samajh aagey??


men apko chand example bhi deta hun takay apko baat clear ho jaye k aap kis bina sar or pair k aitraaz pr bahas kr rahy ho

koi insan ksi dusry sy amoman puchta hy k apky father ka kia haal hy. .. ab is men father noun hy or father ki jama fatherS hoti hy
kia koi kabhi yeh puchta hy k aapky Fathers ka kia haal hy??
agla admi kahay ga k mery fathers nahi hen meray ek hi walid hen
isi tahran ksi shaks ki ek beti ho to koi yeh kahy ga k apki betion ka kia haal hy?? balky woh yeh kahy ka k apki beti ka kia haal hy.
agar ek si ziada huin to woh yeh kahay ga k apki betion ka kia haal hy..
isi tarhan pury Quran men kahin bhi Allah ney apni jamma Allahs ya Gods nahi use ki kiun k Allah ek hi hy ab samajh aae k yeh sari Noun or unki jama hy jo tadaad k liay use hoti hen


ab pronoun ki baat krty hen . misaal k tor pr

ek badshah kahy k men tumhy rizk deta hun
woh hi badshah kahy k hum tumhy rizk dety hen ..
dono surat men Badshah ek hi hy lakin ek jumly men pronoun ka wahid siga use kia hy

or dusy men pronoun ka Jamma siga use kia hy

isi tarhan Allah kahy k, men tumhy rizq deta hun .
ya yeh kahay k hum tumhy risk dety hen
to yahan bhi pronoun ki wahid or jaam sirf Ek Allah k
liay use hui


ab isi men noun ki example bhi deta hun

Allah hi tumhy risk deta hy. yeh noun ki wahid use hui
ab isi tarhan mujhy Allah ki jamaa k saht yeh jumla bna kr dikha den???? ab ho gae sari baat clear k Allah ny kahin bhi apni noun ki
jamma use nahi ki ??

ab meri conditions ka jawab den k Jahan Allah ney apny liay jamaa ka siga use kia or bakol apky iska matlab izat o takreem bhi nahi hy to kia wahan Allah ney Galti ki hy?? kiun k meny Quran ki hi dusri ayat sy dikahay hy k Allah to ek hi hy ???







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Posted on:5th Apr 2012, 12:42pm
 

Batman1

phir woh hi bawiakufon wali baat... jub ailanay nabuat hi nahi hua tha jub Quran ka nazul hi nahi hua tha to konsi aayat k mutabik kafir sy rishty mna hoty?? or kis bunyaad pr rishty sy inkaar krty??

Meray bhai jab abu laheb k liye ayat nazil hui tab to Nabooat ka elaan bhi ho chuka tha aur Quran ka uss se pehlay nazool ho chuka tha to Aap saww ne uss waqt kafiron ko rishta denay se inkar kiun na kiya ?? 

Aur uss k baad bhi kafiron ne hi aap ki betion se rishta tora na k Rasool Allah saww ne...

Phir al aas ki baat karein to aap khud dekh lo k woh kab musalman hua ??

Aur kiya iss doran Rasool Allah saww ne apni beti ka raishta kahin aur kiya ya koshish ki ??

woh to sirf intezar kertay rahay k kab kafir damaad musalman ho ga aur meri beti ko qabool karay ga...

apky is reply sy apky ilm ka kandaza ho rha hy k ayat mubahila ki kitni maloomat y apki. 
Allah ny pardy wali ayat ki tarhan is mubahilwa wali ayat men Rasool Allah saw ko kahin hukam khaas dia k apni bewion ko ya apni betion ko yaa
apni beti ko ley kr jao ya ?? woh ayat paish kro jahan yeh hukam dia?? jub hukam hi nahi dia aesa to betion ko ley jany ya na ley jany 
ka sawal kesy uth sakta hy?? 

Allah ney jub ek beti ko ley jany ka hukam hi nahi dia to wahid k liay jamaa ka siga use krny ka sawal kesy paida hota hy??
Allah ney kahin wahid ko ley jany ka hukam khaas dia hy ya nisah keh kr nabi saw ki apni choice pr chora hy k biwion ka intakhaab kren yah betion ka??
or yeh khaas ayat hy ya aam??

Meray bhai chalein aap ko phir se samjhata hoon...baat kis per ho rahi hai ??

Yehi k Quran mein wahid k liye bhi jamah ka sigha istemal hua...theek ??

Mein ne aap ko misaal di mubahilla ki k ayat mein jamah ka sigha hai lakin kin k liye ?? sirf Bibi Fatima a.s k liye kiun k sirf wohi hasti mubahilla k liye gaein...sahi ??

Ab aap bataein k aap ko iss mein kiya etiraz hai ?? kiya aap mantay hain k woh akeli nahi koi aur khatoon bhi mubahilla k liye gaein ??

aapny mery sawal ka jawab nahi dia or apni taraf sy yeh mokaf apny zehan men bna lia k yeh hota to hum yeh kehty woh hota to hum woh kehty
or yeh sawal bna kr khud hi jawab dy kr khush hony lag gay hen!!! men dubara sawal puchta hun k Allah ney Ahlaibait ka yeh
matlab konsi ayat men btaya hy?? or jub betian thin hi nahi or bewian ahlay bait men bhi nahi aatin bakol aapky to phir to ek beti ko mukhatib kr k hukam
dety or yeh to sub sy bari fazeelat hoti k ek beti ko mukhatib kia hy to koi dusri taveel hi nahi ho sakti phir..


Bas yahen meri baat aap ne maan li k Quran mein wahid k liye bhi jamah ka sigha istemal hua hai...ab aap ka behas kernay ka kiya faida jab k aap ki Quran ki jamah k sigha ki daleel yahan batil ho jati hain kiun k mubahilla mein wahid k liye jamah ka sigha use hua hai...

meny sawal kia tha k Arabic zuban pahly sy thi ya Quran k sath aae mujhy iska reply nazar nahi aaya . 
kahan dia hy iska jawab??

Ok arabic zuban pehlay thi aur quran baad mein nazil hua.

meny pucha tha k jin shia alim ny 4 betian maan li to kia unhon ny Allah ki or RAsool Allah saw ki or apny 
hi ulamah ki Na insafi maan li?? mujhy iska bhi jawabn nazar nahi aaya?? kis post men iska jawab dia hy??

Abhi aap shia ulma ki to baat hi choar dein meray bhai,woh riwayaat hain books mein aur hum kisi book ko authentic nahi mantay siwaye Quran k...iss liye aap pehlay Quran per baat karein phir riwayaat per aaein ge InshAllah...itni jaldi aakhir aap ko kis baat ki hai ??

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Posted on:5th Apr 2012, 2:44pm
 

Batman1

aap meri pichli post bhool jaty hen ya woh aapko nazar aaana band ho jati hey?? 
meny kaha tha k beti ki jama betian use hua hy iska matlab hy k ek sy ziada beti hy 

aapny aitraaz kai k Allah ney bhi apny liay jamaa ki sikga lgaya hy to Allah ko bhi ek sy zaida maan len... sahi kaha na meny 

Allah wala aitraaz aapny kia tha na meny to nahi kia tha lakin meny Quran ki ayat sy yeh sabit kia k Allah ney iska jawab Quran hi men dia hy k Allah ek hy.

ab iska matlab k Quran men grammar ki galti hy ya mera mokaf sahi hy k jahan Allah ny apny liay Pronoun ki Jamaa use ki hy jisy urdu men Hum hota hy uska meny kaha k woh Allah ney Apni izaat o azmat k liay Hum use kia hy jesy koi nawab ya koi badshah ya koi aam insaan bhi kabhi kabhi urdu men MAIN ki jaga HUm use krta hy .. halany Allah ek hi hy or banda bhi ek hi hota hy...

Ok janab mein ab apni baat per wapas aata hon jis baat ko mein ne maan liya tha lakin aap ki zidd per mein ussay dobara repeat kerta hoon kiun k aap ab sirf zidd ker rahay hain aur kuch nahi..

Pehli baat k na hi Quran mein grammer ki ghalti hai aur na hi aap ka moaqaf sahi hai...

Aap insanon ki misaal Allah per na thonpein meray bhai,issay jahiliat kaha jata hai...Agar koi shaks HUM use kerta hai to kiya woh grammer k lehaz se sahi hota hai ??

Iss se koi inkar nahi kerta k Allah wahid hai lakin jo mein ne aap ko baat bayae k Allah ne quran mein wahid k liye jamah ka sigha istemal kiya hai aur uss k liye mein ne aap ko ayat quote ki magar aap phir idhar udhar ki marnay lag gaye...

Ab aap ne Surah Tahreem ki ayat k liye tafseer ka sahara liya,ab mein aap ko kehta hoon k aap tafseer ko aik side per rakhein aur phir mujhay bataein k uss aurat per perda ka kiya hukam ho ga k jis ka koi mard musalman nahi hua ??

to meny iska jawab Shia ki site sy dia jis pr baat krny ki aapki himat nahi hui

Meray bhai shia/sunni site ko aap choro aur sirf itna batao k Allah wahid hai ya nahi ?? Aur agar Allah wahid hai to kiya Allah ne apnay liye jamah ka sigha use kiya ya nahi ??

koi insan ksi dusry sy amoman puchta hy k apky father ka kia haal hy. .. ab is men father noun hy or father ki jama fatherS hoti hy
kia koi kabhi yeh puchta hy k aapky Fathers ka kia haal hy??
agla admi kahay ga k mery fathers nahi hen meray ek hi walid hen 
isi tahran ksi shaks ki ek beti ho to koi yeh kahy ga k apki betion ka kia haal hy?? balky woh yeh kahy ka k apki beti ka kia haal hy.
agar ek si ziada huin to woh yeh kahay ga k apki betion ka kia haal hy..
isi tarhan pury Quran men kahin bhi Allah ney apni jamma Allahs ya Gods nahi use ki kiun k Allah ek hi hy ab samajh aae k yeh sari Noun or unki jama hy jo tadaad k liay use hoti hen


Ab mein aap ki baat lotata hoon aap ne kaha k Allah ne izzat k liye HUM yeni jamah ka sigha use kiya...

Aap k dost aap k father ki izzat kertay hon ge kiya kabhi unhon ne aap k walid ki izzat kertay hua kaha k aap k fathers ka kiya haal hai ??

Ya aap k father ne kabhi kaha we are Batman1 fathers ??

Kiun bachay bun rahay ho ??

Aur yeh jahilon wali misaalein kis bewaqoof se aap seekh ker aa rahay ho ??

Kiya aap ki biwi ne kabhi izzat mein aap ko kaha there are my husbands 

Yeh bewaqoofon wali misaalein mat do aur yeh dundi marnay ki koshish mat karo k badshah aisa kehta hai waisa kehta,aur agar woh keh bhi de to uss per etiraz nahi hai kiun k uss jaisay aur bhi badshah ho saktay hain uss se pehlay bhi badshah guzaray uss k baad bhi magar Allah wahid hai phir yahan jamah ka sigha wahid k liye kiun use hua ??

Aur mera sawal alag tha k Allah wahid hai ya nahi agar hai to kiya Allah ne apnay liye jamah ka sigha use kiya hai ya nahi ??

Aap bas iss ka jawab dein pehlay uss k baad baat agay karein ge...

Aur meray bhai yeh noun pronoun kis jahil ne aap ko sikha diye k Allah k liye use karo ??

Allah k liye noun pronoun ki grammer nahi chal sakti kiun k yeh form wahan use hoti hai jis k aur bhi uss jaisay hon...

Rasool Allah saww ki 4 betian sabit kernay k liye Allah ko bhi mazzaq bana diya hai aap ne :P


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Posted on:5th Apr 2012, 3:11pm
 

Batman1

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Yahan per pehlay Allah ne apnay liye HUM use kiya aur phir dosri ayat mein MEIN use kiya...ab aap batao k yahan apnay liye izzat ka lafz kiun use nahi kiya Allah ne ??

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Posted on:6th Apr 2012, 12:19pm
 

Mufti

Meray bhai jab abu laheb k liye ayat nazil hui tab to Nabooat ka elaan bhi ho chuka tha aur Quran ka uss se pehlay nazool ho chuka tha to Aap saww ne uss waqt kafiron ko rishta denay se inkar kiun na kiya ??

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sura masad nazil hony k baad kis ny konsi beti ka rishta manga tha?

or Nabuat ka jub ailan hua to kia usi din sara Quran bhi nazil ho gya tha jis men Kufaaar sy nikah haram kr ney ka hukam aa gya tha??

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Aur uss k baad bhi kafiron ne hi aap ki betion se rishta tora na k Rasool Allah saww ne...

Phir al aas ki baat karein to aap khud dekh lo k woh kab musalman hua ??

Aur kiya iss doran Rasool Allah saww ne apni beti ka raishta kahin aur kiya ya koshish ki ??

woh to sirf intezar kertay rahay k kab kafir damaad musalman ho ga aur meri beti ko qabool karay ga...

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Abu al-Aas ibn al-Rabee RA kufr ki halat men bhi nihayat muhabat krny walay shohar thy isi liay unhon ney abu lahab k beton ki tarhan RAsool SAW ki beti Zainab ra ka rishta khatam bhi nahi kia tha .. baad men woh Musalman ho kr bhi achay insaan or sahabi rahay. or woh Khadija ra k rishty daar bhi thy . in ki beti hazrat Umama bhi thin jo Rasool Allah saw pr namaz parhny k doraan bachpan men sawar ho jati thin jesy Hazrat Hussain ra sawar hoty thy or App saw un sy mohabat bhi krty thy.. or in hi sy Hazrat Ali ra ney Hazrat Fatima ra k wisaal k baad shadi bhi ki

or sirf yeh hi nahi balky bohot sy logon ney bohot dair baad islam kabul kia . to is men konsa aitraaz hey??

Rasool Allah saw ney is bunyaad pr rishta khatam nahi kia tha k un k damaad ney islam kabul nahi kia balky woh to Qaid sy chorny ki condition pey aap ny rasool Allah saw sy wada kia tha or zainab ra ko Qaid sy rehae ki keemat k badly men wapis kia.. . agar is doraan Zainab ra ki shadi kahin or nahi hui to is sy yeh kesy sabit ho jata hy k unko Al aas ra k liay hi bithay rakha? phir to Qaid sy pahly hi beti wapis ley aaty or jub tak woh musalman na hoty to beti na dety ....


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Meray bhai chalein aap ko phir se samjhata hoon...baat kis per ho rahi hai ??

Yehi k Quran mein wahid k liye bhi jamah ka sigha istemal hua...theek ??

Mein ne aap ko misaal di mubahilla ki k ayat mein jamah ka sigha hai lakin kin k liye ?? sirf Bibi Fatima a.s k liye kiun k sirf wohi hasti mubahilla k liye gaein...sahi ??

Ab aap bataein k aap ko iss mein kiya etiraz hai ?? kiya aap mantay hain k woh akeli nahi koi aur khatoon bhi mubahilla k liye gaein ??

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muhjhy yeh hi umeed thi k aapka ilm sirf itna hi hoga.. meny aapsy kuch sawal kiay thy lakin apny unka jawab nahi dia...

pahly ayat nazil hui thi ya pahly hi ek beti ko ley kr gaye or usky baad ayat nazil hui jis sy aapny socha k ek beti ko ley kr gaye hen isi liay wahid k liay jamma ka siga use hua?? or agar pardy wali ayat men sirf ek azwaaj parda kartni or baki azwaaj nahi krtin to kia us wife k amal sy ayat k jamaa k sigay ko wahid samjha jata k ek hi wife ny parda kia??? .. or agar wahid k liay jaam ka siga use hua to kia christian k liay bhi fatima jesi sirf ek beti ko ley jani k liay wahid siga use hua?? yeh bachon wali baten apki sari

Ayat mubahila men ksi wahid ko lay janay ka hukam hi nahi hy.. or us sy muraad koi wahid bhi nahi thi or na hi us men Fatima ra ko ley janay ka hukam hey ..

kiun k Ayat mubahila sirf Rasool Allah saw k liay hi nazil nahi hui thi us men doosra groh bhi tha Christians ka .. ab samajh aaey k wahan saray jamaa k sigay kiun use huay hen?

kia Christain k liay bhi wahan nisa sy muraad unki ek hi koi beti thi?? aap khuda k liay yeh mat keh dena k wahan sy Christian bhi apni sirf ek hi beti ko le kr aa rahy thy jis sy nasal chalni thi or apni un betion or bewion ko nahi laa rahy thy jo baanj thin ya jin sy nasal nahi chalni thin....

Mubahila wali ayat or PArday wali ayaat ko ek dosry sy compare kia hi nahi ja sakta .

parday men baray raasth or bakaida tor par nishandahi kr k Beiwion ko alag mukhatib kia hy or betion ko alag mukhatib kia hy or RAsool Allah saw ko bakaida Hukam dia hy

lakin mubahila men Allah ney is liay Nisa kaha hy k wahan is tahrhan ka hukam khaas naam ki koi cheez hi nahi hy or wahan sirf Rasool Allah saw ko mukhatib nahi kia balkay christians ko bhi mukhatib kia hy .. is liy woh ayaat Amm hy lakin 2 khaas Group k liay isi liay wahan jamaa ka siga laga ..

or yeh hi baat Shia alim Tabatabae ney apni Quran ki Tafseer men kahi hy k yeh ayaat us time k 2 groups k liay aam thi ..

or yeh baat Rasool Allah saw ki apni choice pr thi k aurton men sy betion ka intakhaab kia or ek beti ko ley kr gaye or un k hi k beton ko ley kr gay kiun k na baki betian zinda thin or na hi un k bety zinda thy.

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Abhi aap shia ulma ki to baat hi choar dein meray bhai,woh riwayaat hain books mein aur hum kisi book ko authentic nahi mantay siwaye Quran k...iss liye aap pehlay Quran per baat karein phir riwayaat per aaein ge InshAllah...itni jaldi aakhir aap ko kis baat ki hai ??

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yeh hi to baat hey k woh sirf riwayaten hi nahi hen balky pahly k or baad k bhi bohot sy shia alim or Ayatullah ka aqeeda hy k 4 betian thin.. apny behoshi men jitny bhi aitraaz mujhy sy kiay hen woh saray meri taraf sy in saray shia alimo k liay bhi hen jin ka aapny jawab dena hy ..

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Posted on:6th Apr 2012, 12:51pm
 

Grammar


Pehli baat k na hi Quran mein grammer ki ghalti hai aur na hi aap ka moaqaf sahi hai...

Aap insanon ki misaal Allah per na thonpein meray bhai,issay jahiliat kaha jata hai...Agar koi shaks HUM use kerta hai to kiya woh grammer k lehaz se sahi hota hai ??

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meny pucha tha k arbic zubaan pahly sy hi thi ya Quran k sath aae to aapny jawab dia k arabic language pahly hi thi to uski grammar bhi pahly hi thi usky alfaaz usky jumly uski noun uski promoun or unka istamal ka tareeka bhi paly hi tha or yeh hi sari chezain Allah ney Quran men use kr k us time k Kafiron ko samjhaya takay unki samajh men asani sy baat aa jaey is lia Allah ko yeh bhi batany ki zarurat nahi thi k jahan HUM ka istamal hua hy wahan Allah ek sy zaida nahi ho gya balky apni Izat o takreem k liay use kia hy jesy arab k log or arab k poet bhi yeh alfaaz use krty thy isi liay abu jahal ney bhi kabhi Quran ki zubaan pr sawal nahi kia kiun k uski apni zubaan arabic thi .... or Quran men Allah ney khud farmaya hy k

Sura Shura Ayat 7 .

اور ہم نے اسی طرح آپ پر (یہ) قرآن عربی وحی کے ذریعہ سے نازل کیا ہے تاکہ آپ (سب سے پہلے) مکہ کے رہنے والوں کو او رجو لوگ اس کے آس پاس ہیں ان کو ڈرائیں اور جمع ہونے کے دن سے ڈرائیں جس (کے آنے) میں ذرا شک نہیں ایک گروہ جنت میں (داخل ہوگا) اور ایک دوزخ میں ہو گا۔

surah fusilat ayat 44.

اگر ہم اس کو عجمی (زبان) کا قرآن بناتے تو یوں کہتے اس کی آیتیں صاف صاف کیوں نہیں بیان کیں گئیں یہ کیا بات کہ عجمی کتاب اور عربی رسول آپ کہہ دیجیئے کہ یہ قرآن ایمان والوں کے لیے تو رہنما اور شفا ہے اور جو ایمان نہیں لائے ان کے کانو ں میں ڈاٹ ہے اور وہ قرآن ان کے حق میں نابینائی ہے یہ لوگ (بوجہ عدم انتفاع کے ایسے ہیں کہ گویا) کسی بڑی دور جگہ سے پکارے جا رہے ہیں (کہ آواز سنتے ہوں مگر سمجھتے نہ ہوں)

yeh baat ek arabic kafir to samajh sakta hy lakin koi jaali mufti nahi samajh sakta kiunk usy arabic ki dor dor tak malumaat nahi hy yeh baat ek arabic kafir to samajh sakta hy lakin koi jaali mufti nahi samajh sakta kiunk usy arabic ki dor dor tak malumaat nahi hy

Surah Zukhraaf Ayat 1

حمۤ (۱) قسم اس کتاب واضح کی۔ (۲) کہ ہم نے اس کو عربی زبان کا قرآن بنایا ہے تاکہ (اے عرب) تم (آسانی) سے سمجھ لو

Yeh bewaqoofon wali misaalein mat do aur yeh dundi marnay ki koshish mat karo k badshah aisa kehta hai waisa kehta,aur agar woh keh bhi de to uss per etiraz nahi hai kiun k uss jaisay aur bhi badshah ho saktay hain uss se pehlay bhi badshah guzaray uss k baad bhi magar Allah wahid hai phir yahan jamah ka sigha wahid k liye kiun use hua ??

Aur mera sawal alag tha k Allah wahid hai ya nahi agar hai to kiya Allah ne apnay liye jamah ka sigha use kiya hai ya nahi ??

Aap bas iss ka jawab dein pehlay uss k baad baat agay karein ge...

Aur meray bhai yeh noun pronoun kis jahil ne aap ko sikha diye k Allah k liye use karo ??

Allah k liye noun pronoun ki grammer nahi chal sakti kiun k yeh form wahan use hoti hai jis k aur bhi uss jaisay hon...

Rasool Allah saww ki 4 betian sabit kernay k liye Allah ko bhi mazzaq bana diya hai aap ne :P


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jahil admi yeh sawal Allah sy pucho k Allah ney Quran men insano ki banae hui zubaan or usky usool kiun use kiay.. Allah ney apny liay men or hum kiun use kia jo us time k insaan apny liay krty thy

Allah ney aesi bahtreen or perfect noun or pronoun or aesi kamaaal k sentences kiun use kiay jis sy arab k kafir shair bhi hairaan reh gaye k yeh tahreer ksi insaan ki likhi hui nahi hey jis men is kadar fasahto balagat is kadar asloob o nigarish hy .

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English VS Arabic & Urdu

Meray bhai shia/sunni site ko aap choro aur sirf itna batao k Allah wahid hai ya nahi ?? Aur agar Allah wahid hai to kiya Allah ne apnay liye jamah ka sigha use kiya ya nahi ??

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Yahan per pehlay Allah ne apnay liye HUM use kiya aur phir dosri ayat mein MEIN use kiya...ab aap batao k yahan apnay liye izzat ka lafz kiun use nahi kiya Allah ne ??


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mery sar par sing nikly huay hen jo aesy shaks sy bahas krun jis k galay koi baat paray to woh kahy k isy chor do or uski jahilon walay sawalon ka jawab deta rahun usy grammar ka sabak sikhata rahun.... or mera dimakh kharab hy k betion k jama k sigy pr apka Allah k liay jamaa k sigy ka jawab dun or jub aapky pas koi bahana na bachy to Allah k wahid sigay ka sawalon ka jawab deny lg jaun .. yeh bahas ab ja kr un shia sy kro jo us site ko chala rahy hen jinhon ney Hum ka matlab Allah ki izat o azmat ko barhanay ka kaha hy

or koi insaan apny abu ko aap keh kr kiun pukarta hy?? aap to jamaa hy jiski wahid tu hoti hy.. to kai woh aap is liay kehta k k abu ek si zaida hen ya abu ki izaat k liay aap keh rha hota hy... itni to akal hy na k woh AAP is liay laga raha hota hy k abu ko izat sy ahtraam sy mukhatib kry ..

lakin usky abu kagar apny liay MAIN use kren jo wahid hy to kia woh apny apko zaleel krny k liay apni bey izati krny k liay lag rahy hoty hen..

Grammer ki alif bay nahi aati or champion ban ny ki koshis kr rahy thy or keh rahy thy k mujhy nahi bhagny den gen arabic sy .

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Ab mein aap ki baat lotata hoon aap ne kaha k Allah ne izzat k liye HUM yeni jamah ka sigha use kiya...

Aap k dost aap k father ki izzat kertay hon ge kiya kabhi unhon ne aap k walid ki izzat kertay hua kaha k aap k fathers ka kiya haal hai ??

Ya aap k father ne kabhi kaha we are Batman1 fathers ??

Kiun bachay bun rahay ho ??

Aur yeh jahilon wali misaalein kis bewaqoof se aap seekh ker aa rahay ho ??

Kiya aap ki biwi ne kabhi izzat mein aap ko kaha there are my husbands

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akalmand insaan yeh hi baat to men itni dair sy bata raha hun or meri hi kahi hui baat ko apny mun sy keh kr mujh sy hi sawal kr rahy ho..

yeh hi to mera mokaf hy k Noun ki jamaa sirf tadaad k liay use hoti hy or pronoun ki jamaa izat k liay or tadaad k liay bhi use hoti hy .. men hazaar bar yeh keh chuka hun

or koi apny father ko izat deny k liay is liay fathers nahi kahy ga k father noun hy or iski jamaa fathers hy jo izat deny k liay nahi balky tadaad k laiy use ho sakti hy ... ab samajh aae k wahan betion ki jamaa tadaad k liay use hui hy .. or izat deny k liay woh apny father ko AAp keh kr pukaray ga jo pronoun hy or jamaa hy.. aap ek k liay bhi use hota hy uski izat krny k liay or ek sy zaida k liay bhi use hota hy .

mera dost jub mery abu sy baat kry ga to woh yeh nahi kahy ga k tera kia haal hy woh kahy ga k AAPka kia haal hy .. kiun k tera pronoun ki wahid hy or aapka jaamaa hy .

aapny dsro misaaal di woh bhi mery mokaf ki hi taheed kr rahi hy lakin English men izat deny k alfaaz hi nahi hen akalmand insaan.. english language ARabic or urdu ki tarhan fasahat o balagat ki zubaan nahi hy

english men aap ksi ko ahtraaam sy bhi bulane gen to YOU lagen gen

or usko budtameezi sy bhi bulane gen to YOU kahen gen

lakin ARabic or urdu men isky alfaas mojud hen . jesy TU ya TUM ya AAP .

urdu men bhi yeh hi kaha jay ga hum batman k father hen

us men hum (we) pronoun hy jo jamma hy iski wahid I hy

or father ki jamaa fathers is liay use nahi hoga k FAther noun hy uski jamaa sirf tadaad k liay use hoti hy ....


aapki teesri misaal bhi mery mokaf ko sahi sabit kr rahi hy lakin english men aapka jumla hi galat ho gya hey kiun english language ARabic or urdu ki tarhan fasahat o balagat ki zubaan nahi hy lakin urdu men bhi ye mery mokaf ki taheed kr rahi hy

koi bewi apny husband k liay uski jamaa husbands is liay nahi lage gi kiun k husban noun hy or noun ki jamaa sirf tadaad k liay use hoti hy

lakin woh izat k liay yeh kahy gi k

yeh hen mer husband


ab men dubara apni koi baat nahi dohraun ga .. mujhy apni kahi hu baten baar baar dohrany ka koi shok nahi hy

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Mufti

Ok mein ne maan liya k surah Ahzab per jo meri daleel thi woh mazboot nahi thi,woh daleel khatam...ab rehti hain 3 daleelein....

1. Allah k liye jamah ka sigha.

2. Mubahilla k liye jamah ka sigha.

3. abi salool k liye jamah ka sigha.

Theek hai ??

Ab aap inn mein se pehlay kisi aik per baat start ker lein aur uss daleel ko bhi ghalat sabit karein...sab aik sath mat start kijiye ga kiun k phir mix up ho jata hai sab kuch...

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yeh baat aapny us time nahi sochi jub mery sy yeh sary k saray aitraaz ek hi post men kry thy.. us men mix nahi hony thy??

meny baki 3 k bhi jawab pahly hi diay huy hen or mazeed baat nahi kreun ga

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Batman1

Iss se pehlay k mein aap ki posts ka jawab doon aap se aik simple sa sawal pochta hoon...

Surah Munafiqoon 8 They say, "If we return to Medina, surely the more honourable (element) will expel therefrom the meaner." But honour belongs to Allah and His Messenger, and to the Believers; but the Hypocrites know not.

Mujhay iss ayat ka shan e nazool bata do k yeh baat kis ne kahi thi...

Iss k baad mein aap ki baaki posts ka bhi jawab de doon ga lakin inn posts mein na-zeba alfaz use kiye hain aap ne meray baray mein...

Aap ko yaad rakhna chahiye k aap apnay walid k sath discussion nahi ker rahay jo jahil aadmi aur iss terha k alfaz use ker rahay hain....apnay walid aur mujh mein farq rakhein aur ussi terha izzat se baat karein jis terha mein aap se baat ker raha hoon...

Kher aap iss baat ka reply karein ta k uss k baad mein aap ki posts ka reply karon...

aur mein ne aik link bhi diya tha surah Munafiqoon ka jis mein aik ayat mein wahid sigha use hua aur dosri ayat mein jamah ka aur mein ne pocha tha k iss baray mein aap kiya kahein ge...

Hawaib k kuttay bhonkay wali hadith k baray mein bhi baat ki thi magar aap ref. le ker khamosh hi ho gaye...uss ki koi khaas wajah ??

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Mufti

MashAllah aap ne kafi ref. diye lakin uss mein kuch aisi books hain jo itni ahmiat k qabil hi nahi hain yeh darulkutni mutni yeh fazool books lagti hain k jinhon ne hazrat umar aur hazrat abu bakar k sath bhi a.s laga diya uss book ka kiya mayaar ho ga,agar yeh books itni mayari hotiein to aap k aqeeda mein inn ki ahmiat hoti...

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meny apko yeh name inki ahmiat puchny k liay nahi batay . or na hi yeh pucha hy k hamary aqeeday men inki ahmait hy ya nahi .. meny aapko apna mokaf bhi bta dia hy k Sahaba k liay bhi A.S lagaya ja sakta hy. Bhaly woh koi aam sahabhi hi kiun na ho Abu bakar Umar ra to pahly aaty hen ..

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Waisay bhi inn khuwateen ki hum ne baat ki hi nahi thi aap over efficency dikhanay k liye aur sirf post bari dikhanay k liye ajeeb ajeeb se books bhi quote kernay lag gaye hain jab k mein ne sirf kuch books k specially naam liye thay :P

Haan jo ref. sahih bukhari ka aap ne diya woh sahi book se ref. hai lakin uss mein aik masla to yeh hai k meray paas jo bukhari hai uss mein yeh hadith ka no. nahi hai balkeh woh aur hadith hai yeh bhi zara clear ker dein,dosri baat abhi baat incomplete hai kiun k abhi bhi 2 betian baaki rehti hain...


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aapny betion k sath A.S na lagany ki jo taweelain ki thin unko meny baki logon k sath bhi A.S na laga kr rad kr dia hy .. meny pahly bhi jawab dya hy meri post dubara parho k A.S ki post meny kiun ki hy.

bukhari ka yeh hawala hy Volume 7 Kitab-ul-libaas, Baab Al hareer un nisa (aurton ka resham pahan na)






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Munafiqoon

Iss se pehlay k mein aap ki posts ka jawab doon aap se aik simple sa sawal pochta hoon...

Surah Munafiqoon 8 They say, "If we return to Medina, surely the more honourable (element) will expel therefrom the meaner." But honour belongs to Allah and His Messenger, and to the Believers; but the Hypocrites know not.

Mujhay iss ayat ka shan e nazool bata do k yeh baat kis ne kahi thi...

Iss k baad mein aap ki baaki posts ka bhi jawab de doon ga lakin inn posts mein na-zeba alfaz use kiye hain aap ne meray baray mein...

Aap ko yaad rakhna chahiye k aap apnay walid k sath discussion nahi ker rahay jo jahil aadmi aur iss terha k alfaz use ker rahay hain....apnay walid aur mujh mein farq rakhein aur ussi terha izzat se baat karein jis terha mein aap se baat ker raha hoon...

Kher aap iss baat ka reply karein ta k uss k baad mein aap ki posts ka reply karon...

aur mein ne aik link bhi diya tha surah Munafiqoon ka jis mein aik ayat mein wahid sigha use hua aur dosri ayat mein jamah ka aur mein ne pocha tha k iss baray mein aap kiya kahein ge...

koi nai baat kro .surah munafiqoon oribn salool pr kafi baat ho chuki hy . un sari ayaat men ibn salool or usky sathion ki bateen or unki munafikat ka zikar hy .

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mufti

Hawaib k kuttay bhonkay wali hadith k baray mein bhi baat ki thi magar aap ref. le ker khamosh hi ho gaye...uss ki koi khaas wajah ??

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uska taluk nahi hy is topic sy .. ab us pr bhi bahas krni hy yahan
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Mufti

Iss k baad mein aap ki baaki posts ka bhi jawab de doon ga lakin inn posts mein na-zeba alfaz use kiye hain aap ne meray baray mein...

Aap ko yaad rakhna chahiye k aap apnay walid k sath discussion nahi ker rahay jo jahil aadmi aur iss terha k alfaz use ker rahay hain....apnay walid aur mujh mein farq rakhein aur ussi terha izzat se baat karein jis terha mein aap se baat ker raha hoon...

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aapny meri di hui misalon k jawab men kaha k isay jahiliat kaha jata hy to meny bhi yeh hi word use kia hy

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Baab bnanay or riwayat leny or Aitraaz

Dosri teraf unn se zulm aap k ulma ne bhi kiya,sahih bukhari mein her shaksiat k fazail ka zikr hai aur aik alag baab mojood hai lakin mujhay uss mein Rasool Allah saww ki baaki 3 betion k fazail ka koi baab nazar nahi aaya...

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Aapky saray aitrazaat aesy hen na jin k sar ka pta chal raha hota hy na pair ka . mujhy aap yeh btaen k Alag sy baab bna kr hadeesain darj krna Wajib hy ya sunnat hy?? yeh kia Quran ka hukam hy ya Hadees rasool SAW hy ya ksi sahaba ka irshaad hy ya Mohadis k liay koi Khaas Qanoon hy k har shaks ki fazail ki hadesain Alag baab bna kr likhy? agar nahi likhta to us ny na insafi ki hy sy un shaksiat sy mohabbat nahi thi us ny zulam kia hy??

Jis tarhan Rasool Allah saw ki 11 azwaaj thin lakin un men sy chand azwaaj ki fazeelaton ka zikar bohot ziada hy or bakion ka nahi hy to kia bakion k sath zulm hua hy ya baki azwaaj thi hin nahi???

aap Rasool Allah saw ki kitni azwaaj ko manty ho??? kia sub ka wesa hi zikar hy Jesa Khadija ra jesa or Ayesha ra jesa hy??? kia un sub k bhi baab banay gay hen??


jis tarhan azwaaj 11 thin lakin ziada Zikar or fazelat ki hadesain Khadija ra or Ayesa ra or kuch Hafsa ra ki likhi gae hen usi tarhan RAsool Allah saw ki 4 betion men sy Fatima RA ki shaan men zaida ahahdesain hen jub k baki betion ki hadesain ksi makhsoos baab men nahi hen balky mix hen or tadaad men bhi kum hen ...


Masnad imam humbal mein bohat tafseel se ahadees likhi gaye hain aur bohat se khawateen se ahadees se riwayat ki gaye hain balkeh aisi khawateen ka bhi zikr kiya gaya hai k jin ka naam bhi maloon nahi tha lakin bohat ajeeb laga k uss mein kahin bhi Rasool Allah saww ki baaki 3 betion ka koi zikr hi nahi kiya gaya...chalein Rasool Allah saww ne to apni 3 betion ko ignore kiya hi aur na-insafi ki Naozbillah,magar aap k muattabar ulma ne kiun yeh na-insafi ki ??

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ji han mansad ahamd men bohot sy logon sy riwayaten li gae hen or Ahlay sunnat men Sahaba ki bohot bari tadaad sy hadesain li jati hen or Azwaaj sy bhi hadeesain li jati hen or is liay bohot sy log cover nahi bhi ho patay lakin Shia books men Na sahaba sy na Azwaaj sy hadesain li jati hen to chand makhsoos log hi bachy jin men ahlay bait or chand sahaba hen or shia ki Moatabr tareen kitaab Usool Kafi hy jis men takreeban 16000 ahadees hen

ab shia kun k na sahaba ki itni kaseer tadaad sy riawayaten nakal krty hen or na hi azwaaj sy riwayaten nakal krty hen or chalo nabi SAW ki ek beti Fatima RA ko hi maanty hen .inhen hi buland martabay wala manty hen or Mohibnay ahlay bait k champion hony ka dawa bhi krty hen to usool KAfi men 16000hadeeson men sy kamaz kam 6000 hadeesain to Fatima ra sy nakal ki gae hongi

ya chalo 1000 hi hadesain hon gi .. agar itni bhi nahi to kamaz kam 10hadeesain hi Fatima RA sy nakal ki gae hon gen.. Janaab zra apni usool kafi khool kr dekhen k 16000 hadeeson wali Shia ki moatabar tareen book men Fatima ra sy koi aik bhi riawayt nakal nahi ki gaye ..

baki 3 betion ki to chalo bahas thi k woh thin ya nahi thin lakin FAtima ra to thin na .. baki teen betion sy chalo Na insafi or zulam krny ka ilzaam laga tha to FAtima ra sy yeh shia ny konsi dushmani nikali???? yeh konsi na insafi ki aapky Imam Kulayni ney?? itna zulm kiun kia k aik bhi hadees Fatima ra sy nakal nahi ki ... ?????

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Batman1

Surah Munafiqoon 8 They say, "If we return to Medina, surely the more honourable (element) will expel therefrom the meaner." But honour belongs to Allah and His Messenger, and to the Believers; but the Hypocrites know not.


Mujhay iss ayat ka shan e nazool bata do k yeh baat kis ne kahi thi...

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Mufti

mujy kia zarurat hey iska shanay nazul btanay ki??

or agar ibn salool pr hi mazeed baat krni hy to mery pahly sy puchy huay sawalat ka jawab den baat phir mazeed baat hogi is pr.

Kia us time ibn salool akela hi munafiq tha ya usky munafiq sathi bhi thy..

kia Surah munafiquoon usky munafiq sathion k liay nahi hy or unky nifaaq ko bhi zahir krny k liay nahi utrin???
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Batman1

Meray bhai aap ne lambi lambi posts ki panah mein bohat idhar udhar bhaag liya werna aap kab k iss topic se bhi bhaag chukay hotay jis terha baaki topics se bahagay hain,iss liye ab mein aap se point to pint baat karon ga ta k aap issay ohad ka maidan na samjhein...

Kher mein ab wait karon ga uss ayat k shan e nazool ka kiun k aap ne jitna bhagna tha bhaag liya ab umeed hai topic per baat bhi karein ge :P

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Mufti

ab to takreeban sari baaten hi cover ho gae hen isliay topic pr to wesy bhi baat krny ka kuch nahi bacha .. bhagun ya na bhagun mazed baat to tub ho gi jub koi new baat krogy or mery sawalon ka jawab dy kr ksi purani daleel pr baat kro gy
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Batman1

ab to takreeban sari baaten hi cover ho gae hen isliay topic pr to wesy bhi baat krny ka kuch nahi bacha .. bhagun ya na bhagun mazed baat to tub ho gi jub koi new baat krogy or mery sawalon ka jawab dy kr ksi purani daleel pr baat kro gy

Aap ne iss topic ko ohad ka maidan samajh liya tha k jab dil kiya pahaar per cherh gaye...

Ab jab k mein ne bhaag ker pahaar per cherhnay ka rasta bund ker diya to itni jaldi ghabra gaye...

Kitnay dinon se sirf sawal hi ker rahay thay aik jawab dena para to kiya haalat ho gaye hai...

Kher mein wait ker raha hoon k kab aap surah munafiqoon ki uss ayat ka shaan e nazool batao ge :P

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Posted on:9th Apr 2012, 9:32pm
 

Mufti

surah munafiqon ibn salool or usky sahtion k wakiy pr nazil hui hy.. yeh ayat bhi ibn salool or usky sathion k plan pr nazil hui jis men unhon ny Madina wapis lot kr Mohajireen ko nikaalna tha . jub yeh baat rasool Allah saw ko pta chali to unho ny usko or usky sathion ko bulaya.. un sub ney jhoti kasam kha li k un hon ney aesa nahi kaha ..bukahri ka jo hawala dia tha woh check kro ..



ab bila chun charan mery sawalon ka jawab do aap ..

or thora juldi .. mery exams kareeb hen . warna 2 monts ka waitkrna paray ga


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