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Posted on:15th Jan 2011, 12:36am |
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Solaman Taseer ki Turaf dariyaan Bhimji nay Solaman taseer ki achi khobiyoon or oski professional life or achievements ko highlight keya hay, hur insan ki khobiyaan khamiyaan hoti hen abi agur solaman taseer ki koi achi khobi yaa biyaan kurta hay tu es meah keya borai hay logo kay samny oski life ky sary rokh samny any chayeh,
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Posted on:15th Jan 2011, 1:56am |
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salmaan taseer ki khoobiyaaN houN yaa mumtaaz qaadri ki kamiyaaN.......yeh sab ab aik "zimni see baat hai.......asal baat yeh hai k salmaan taseer aik aisaa symbol ban chukaa hai jiss nay tauheenay resaalat k qanoon ki mokhalfat aur iski mujrima asia bibi ki hemayat ki (yehi kaam yahood o nasaaraa, pope aur onkay local agents bhi kar rahay haiN)...........issi tarah mumtaaz qadri bhi ghaazi alam deen shaheed ki tarah aik sachay aashiqay rasoo saw ka symbol ban chuka hai.
aj in dounouN symbols maiN salman ki khoobiyaaN aur qadri ki khamiyaaN bayaan karna daryaa main water flow k "against" chalnay jaisaa hai.
yehi kaam udru k leftist, sharaabi, zaani aur characterless adeeb last sadi say kartay chalay aa rahay haiN.......woh apnay afsaanouN, novels, poetry k zaroyah mosalsal........society k +ve symbols molvi, mulla ki inferaadi khamiyaaN ginwaa kar "molvism" ko mal'oon aur tawaifouN ki inferaadi khoobiyaaN ginwaa kar onkay institution (asmat faroshi) ki indirectly promote kartay chalay aa.ay hain................taaham onkay aisay novels, movies, daraamoun ki best selling honay k bawajood aaj bhi indo pak ki society tawaif ko as a whole qabool nahi kia aur nah hi "molvi" ko samaaj badar kia.......
salmaan Allah k hazoor chala gaya...qadri bhi jald yaa badeer chalaa jayegaa...wahaaN on dounouN par sahi sai insaaf hoga..........but muslim society main salmaan as a -ve symbol aur qadri as +ve symbol hamesha zindah rahengay... insha Allah |
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Posted on:15th Jan 2011, 5:28am |
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Re Topic or bat or suwal or juwab or yah Bat kurny ka koi fayda nahi,
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Abu . Lolo |
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Posted on:16th Jan 2011, 2:30am |
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fuzool behs.. mere khayal se tamam daleelein jo yahan bayan ki jaa rahi hein agar soudi muftiyon ko sunai jaein (jinhon ne salman taseer ko shaheed qarar dia) to ho sakta hai kuch "afaqa" ho jaye. |
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Posted on:16th Jan 2011, 2:46am |
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abu lolo hahaha ..brother do u know history of this name "abu lolo" ??
kia main pooch sakta hon aap k mind main aysa nick banany ka idea kahan sy aya ? agar aap ny just typing kar di hay to pehly iss nick ki asal haqeeqat jan lain aur agar aap waqiya hi iss haqeeqat sy ashna hain k yeh name "kon" hay to phir aap yahan share kar dain ...:)) thanks.... |
Abu . Lolo |
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Posted on:16th Jan 2011, 2:51am |
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abu lolo islamic tareekh ki aik motabar shakhsiyat ka nam hay.. |
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Posted on:16th Jan 2011, 2:54am |
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han wohi to main b to yahi araz kar raha hon k aap iss shakhsiyat k agar "kaar namon" sy aga hain to yahan share krain..:) |
Bhimji |
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Posted on:19th Jan 2011, 12:11pm |
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re: Isay hamari badd qismati hi kaha ja skta hae ke hamaray andar aise black sheeps mojood hn jo hr maslay main Islam ko ghaseet laate hn aur dalayel se baat krne ko kufar smjhna shuru kr dete hn. Main ache ulmaah, khawa ksi b firqay se hun, ki izzat krta hun mgr hamaray han ulmaah ke roop main aise johlaa b mojood hn jo Toheen-e-Risalat ke qanoon ko hi Risalat smjh kr beth gye hn aur agr qanoon pr kch keh dia jaye tau ye shor machana shuru kr dete hn ke Toheen-e-Risalat ka irtikab ho gya hae aur aisa fard mot ka haqdar hae au raise fard ki hamayet krne wala b dayera-e-Islam se kharaj, Qadiyaniyun ka agent aur America aur UK ka pithu hae. What is this non sense yar ke daleel se baat krne walay aur argue krne walay pr itne barray bohtaan laga diye jayen. Koi jo b kehta rahe mgr ye fact hae ke Salmam Taseer lakh bura sahi lkn usne Toheen-e-Risalat ka irtakab nahi kia tha aur yaqeenan Toheen-e-Risalat k qanoon ke implementation procedures main amendment ki zarurat h takeh koi be-gunah iss ka shikar na ho. Jo NAZRIATI jamatein toheen e risalat pr seyasat chamka rahi hn unn pr phr likhunga free time mn.
Mere nazdeek Rasool (SAW) ke name ko exploit kr ke qatal-o-gharat phelaane waalay fard ki himayet krne se lakh darje behtar hae ke hamaray ulmaah aisi proposals den jis se iss qanoon ko behtar bnaya ja ske. Herat aur afsos ka muqam tau ye hae ke usay Ilm Deen Shaheed se tashbeeh di ja rahi hae jis ne Toheen-e-Risalat ke irtikab krne aur baud main usay publicly accept krne walay ko qatal kia tha. Hamaray be shaoor log tau Mumtaz qadri ki hamayet main itna aagay chale gye ke Ahl-e-Hadees ki maroof darsgaah Banori Town ke Aalim ne fatwa de dia ke Mumtaz Qadri ki himayet krne wala ghalati pr hae aur Islam main aise Mawray-e-Adalat iqdamat krne walay fard ki hamayet ki gunjayesh nahi hae. Unhun ne iss pr hi bass nahi ki balkeh mazeed yeh b kaha ke hum ne Laal Masjid ke bohran main Molana Abdul Aziz aur Abdul Rasheed ko b mana kia tha ke qanoon ko apne hath main na len mgr unhun ne hamari aik nahi mani aur itna barra saneha ho gya.
Yeh alfaz mere jese bnde ne forum pr likhne ki hi gustakhi ki hoti tau shayed deen ka libada orr kr jahiliyat phelaane walay hamaray forum ke aik mufakkar mjhe Islam se Kharij, Toheen-e-Risalat ka mulzam, Qadiyaniyun, Yahoodiyun aur Amercians ka agent aur Twifoon ki shan main qaseeday likhne wala qarar de chukay hotay q ke sachi baatein hamari society main acceptable nahi hn. Wese b jahan dalayel khatam ho jaye wahan aise harbay aur totkay kaam de hi jaate hn. Aap jahilana torr pr qatl-o-gharat krne walay mujram ki hamayet kr ke dunia ko kya pegham dena chahte hn ke hamaray Rasool (SAW) ki taleemat ye hn?? |
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Posted on:20th Jan 2011, 12:32am |
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Salman Taseer iss topic may jo post hey wo may ne read nahi ki,lakin I want to ask something,Nabi pak(s.a.w.w) ki zindagi may bhi logo ney unhey bura bhla kaha kiya app(s.a.w.w) ney unhey mauff nahi kiya?toheen e risalat ka yeh qanoon to Pakistan ka hey islam mey kahi par iss trha ka qanoon hey?ab jin mahan hasti(according to most of the pakistni)jis ney salman taseer ka qatal kiya,kiyaa wo Allah ke han bakhsha jai ga? |
Abu . Lolo |
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Posted on:20th Jan 2011, 5:50am |
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what abu lolo says : salman taseer ghalat nahi tha kyun k usne direct shan e raool saw ki ahaanat nahi ki thi usne aik qanoon ki mukhalifat ki. aur qanoon ki mukhalifat karne se wo gustaakh e rasool saw nahi ban gya.sab qusoor inn so called aalimon ka hai jo logon ko ghalat message detey hein allah inn sab ko hidayat de. |
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Posted on:12th Oct 2011, 10:56am |
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Session Court ne Asia Bibi ko Toheen-e-Risalat (SAW) ke muqaddamay mein Saza sunaai aur Salman Taseer Marhoom ne ja kr kaha ke Toheen-e-Adalat ke qanoon mein ammendments ki zarurat hae aur Asia Bibi ka muqaddama vo dobara Court mein le kr jayen ge balkeh vo President se b Asia Bibi ki saza khatam krne ke liye appeal karein ge. Iss beyan pr sari mazhabi parties ne asman sar pe utha lia ke Governor ne na sirf Toheen-e-Risalat ki hae balkeh Toheen-e-Adalat b ki hae. Agar Asia Bibi qasoorwar nahi b hae tau b Governor ko usay support nahi krna chahiye tha q ke Courts ne proper proceeding ke baud hi muqaddamay ka fesla kia hae. Kch log tau Ex-Governor ko mujrim sabat krne ke liye muqaddamay ki sari karwai b sunaya krte thay jese unn ki aankhun ke saamne sab kuch hua ho. Kher mazhabi jamatein jin ki daal roti chalti hi jahiloon ko gumraah kr ke hae. Wo apne maqsad mein kamyab ho gaieen aur Governor ka murder ho gya. Mumtaz Qadri pr Court mein Case chala aur Court ne usay Mujrim declare krte huvay Phansi ki saza de di. Usski phansi pr aur Court ke Decision ke Khilaf 25 mazhabi jamatoon bashamool Jamate-e-Islami, Sunni Tehreek, Jamiat Ulmaa-e-Pakistan etc. ne 7th October ko Court Decision ke khilaf ehtijaj kia aur Sar-e-aam Toheen-e-Adalat ke murtakib huvay. Iss saray moaamlay pr ghor krne par mere zehan mein kch swal aa rahe hein jo shayed normal insan ke zehan mein aane b chahien.
1. Kya Blasphemy Laws/Toheen e Risalat ka qanoon (Zia ki bjaye) Khuda ka bnaya hua hae ke agar koi uss k implementation process mein tabdeeli ki baat b kr de tau wo hamaray Mullah ki nazar mein Toheen-e-Risalat ka mujrim bn jata h??
2. I will repeat Saim's question again ke Nabi Pak(s.a.w) ki zindagi mein bhi logoon ne unhein bura bhla kaha. Keya Aap (s.a.w) ne unhein muaf nahi kiya? Toheen e risalat ka yeh qanoon tau Pakistan ka hey islam mein kahin par iss trha ka qanoon hey?ab jin mahan hasti (according to most of the pakistni) jis ne Salman Taseer ka qatal kiya, kiyaa wo Allah ke han bakhsha jai ga?
3. Kufaar tau Kufaar, Kya Jang-e-Ohad mein Sahaba karaam ne Rasool (s.a.w) ka hukam na maan kr Toheen e Risalat nahi ki thi. Kya jang ke baud Rasool (s.a.w) ne unhein sazay-e-Mot suna di thi?
4. Agr Salman Taseer uss waqt Toheen-e-Adaalat kr rahe thay tau kya ab 25 mazhabi parties Court Decision ke bawjood uss ke khilaf jaloos nikal kr Toheen-e-Adaalat nahi kr rahi hein??
5. Agar Mumtaz Qadri ko Court ne Mot ki Saza suna di hae tau iska matlab hae ke wo gunahgar hae aur Salman Taseer ka murder b ghalat tha? |
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Posted on:12th Oct 2011, 1:23pm |
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khamoshi ki zuban bhimji aap ki sab batain sar ankhon par laiken aap bakhoobi janty hain k khamoshi ki b apni hi aik zuban hoti hay , iss time aap k sawalaat par khmoshi b yahi bata rahi hay k
main maanta hon par meri main nahi maanti .. to yahan b yahi mu'amla hay
main = anaa (ego)
bhimji kuch log hoty hain na aysy jo aik khol main band ho jaty hian uss khol sy bahar aana ya to unhain naseeb nahi hota ya phir wo khud khol sy bahar nikalna nahi chahty , aur jab koi banda kisi khol main band ho jaye to ussy sirf wohi nazar aata hay jo uss khol k anadar hota hay , khol k bahar ki haqeeqat dikhayee hi nahi daiti ya phir bahar ki haqeeqat ko tasleem karna unn k liye aik mushakal tareen marhala ban jata hay.. |
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Posted on:13th Oct 2011, 10:26am |
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a\'adalat k faisloun ka ihtiram hona chahiay Right wing wale houn ya left wing wale donoun ki aksariat apni intihaon ko chuh rahe hy.
Liberals k nazdeek Aasia Bibi ko sazae maut nahi honi chahiay aur Salman Taseer ka nuqta nazar bilkul theek tha. Mumtaz qadri ne ghalat kia usay sazae maut honi chahiay.
mazhabi siasi jama'atoun k nazdeek Aasia bibi tauheen.e.risalat ki murtakib hoi hy us ko phansi honi chahiay, salman taseer ne ghalat kia aur us ka murder bilkul sahi hy aur mumtaz qadri ko bari kar dena chahiay aur woh hero hy.
donoun ka nuqta nazar mere nazdeek ghalat hy.
Aasia bibi ko a'adalat ne sazae maut dee thee tauheen.e.risalat k jurm main, lehaza usay Paksitan k qanoon aur a'adalat k failsle k mutabiq saza.e.maut de deni chahiay. Aasia bibi ko agar Pakistan k qanoon k mutabiq appeal karne ka haq hasil hy tou usay appeal karni chahiay. Salman taseer ne aik ghalat step uthaya jo wahan dharam se ja pohanche aur tauheen.e.risalat ko ghalat qanoon qarar de dia. woh apni publicity k bajae agar chahte tou pas.e.parda bhi Aasia bibi ki help kar sakte thay, agar un ki nazar main woh ma'asoom thee tou, agar woh gunah gar hy aur Salman Taseer ko ye baat ma'alum thee tou woh lazmi baat hy woh gunah gar hyn.
magar is ka ye matlab hargiz nahi k Salman Taseer apne us a'amal ki waja se wajib.ul.qatal ho gae thay aur unhain marne wale ko jannat ka visa mil jana thaa, hamari mazhabi jama'atoun ne is issue ko ghalat tareeqe se uchala aur logoun k jazbat bharak uthay aur aik jazbati mumtaz qadri ne governor salman taseer ko shoot kar dia. hamari mazhabi jama'atoun ne mumtaz qadri ko hero bana dia aur ab usay jab k a'adalat ne phansi ki saza suna di hy tou ab hamari mazhabi siasi jama'atain roads par nikal gaen hyn us k haq main.
agar Salman Taseer tauheen.e.risalat k murtakib hoay thay tou mazhabi jama'atoun ko un k khilaf a'adalat main jana chahiay thaa.
mere nazdeek a'adalt k faisloun ka ihteram hona chahiay. a'adalat ne Aasia bibi ko saza.e.maut sunai hy usay saza milni chahiay. a'adalat ne hee mumtaz qadri ko sazae maut sunae hy usay bhi saza milni chahiay. agar in donoun ko appeal ka haq hasil hy tou ye a'adalat main appeal kar sakte hyn. meri nazar main a'adalt k faisloun ka ihtiram hona chahiay. a'adalat k faisloun ka mazaq urane ka haq na salman taseer ko hasil thaa na un k himayation ko na mumtaz qadri ki himayati logoun ko na hee kisi aur ko. |
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