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Medical And Islamic Issues Need Proper Guidance

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noorbaba Group: Members  Joined: 25th Jul, 2007  Topic: 4  Post: 33  Age:  31  
Posted on:26th Jul 2007, 7:38pm
 

Medical And Islamic Issues Need Proper Guidance

Dear all,

Our respected Doctor Rizwan is doing a very well job, guiding accurately the best of his possible. Nobody wants to be misguided. Everyone wants the exact solution to his problem, otherwise there is no use for such a solution. Thats why i wanted to share some important factors related to our guidance.

Being a Muslim its my duty to share...

1) Solutions to the Medical problems should be seeked from the doctor, unlike considering the solutions or the comments by common ppl which is taking place over here. People need to understand that their problems should be asked from the relevant concerns otherwise by considering the comments from ordinary ppl can lead to an unintentional misguide due to lack of knowledge.

2) Similarly, solutions to the religious problems should be seeked by an authentic Scholar, here i want to clear this point that doctors know medical, why? because all his life or career he has studied medical. It is his field. No sensible guy can took doctor as an engineer or an engineer as a doctor. Likewise an authentic scholar knows Religion and for those problems we should not consider some doctor. We can say that a doctor can know religion to an extent but it is not his deep study area so he could not be considered as an religious expert. 
So ppl having religious queries, kindly consult scholars, we can get an online access to that which is askimam.org , Mufti ibrahim Desai Camperdown Southafrica (Ahle Sunat Jamaat)

I hope my participation will be accomodated without being edited.

khangi61 Group: Members  Joined: 19th Jul, 2007  Topic: 6  Post: 103  Age:  53  
Posted on:26th Jul 2007, 9:57pm
 

Remedy

noorbaba you explanation is very good but you know nobody pay heeds to these things. i tell you, in reality I think 70% guy presents fake question and enjoy to dicuss them, otherwise there are clear indication of these problems in quran and hadith's.

some time I feel pain that these guys who live in islamic country have such a dirty thinking. I think that our brothers who live in west have more knowledge of these problems, i mean on islamic point of view than the ones who liv in islamic country.

noorbaba Group: Members  Joined: 25th Jul, 2007  Topic: 4  Post: 33  Age:  31  
Posted on:27th Jul 2007, 10:47am
 

Re: Khangi61

 

Ji khan bhai you are right, these kind of forums are more used for enjoyment than for original purpose, agreed!

anyway i just went through this forum and wanted to share my point, i mean what a joke yaar, ppl are asking religious point of views from a "Doctor" without knowing that whether that is the authentic source or not, i mean hes a doctor yaar and to my knowledge this service on this site is also a medical service. tum ne puchna hi hai to medical cheezen pucho, sirf Religion ka naam site pe likh denay se dont make him a scholar. SIGH!!!

Khair i just wrote what i wanted, shaid kisi chahne waley ka bhala ho jaye.

My Reply Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 2  Post: 2318  Age:  46  
Posted on:27th Jul 2007, 12:23pm
 

ketne bewaqoofi ki bat karte ho

1. ham log tu apne ma, bap, bhai, bahan aur friend se bhi bahut sari islami batai poochte hai. jab keh on mai se koi bhi alim-e-din nahi. bachpan se ab tak jo bhi ilm seekha in hi logo se seekha.

2. ap chahte hai keh bacha paida ho aur alim-e-din ke pas fatwa lene bhij dia jai kio keh on ke ilawah aur koi islami batai batane ke qabil nahi. maslan peeshab baith kar karnna chahia, peeshab karne ke baad dhona chahia, pani baith kar peena chahia, nimaz aur quran tilawat se qabal wazoo karna chahia, nimaz parhne ka tareeqa, wazoo karne ka tareeqa aur aise hi hazaro kam jo islami tareeqa se kia jata hai.

3. ap ki theory par amal karte hua agar ma bap kuch na batai keh yeh kam sirf alim-e-din ka hai tu phir soche aj logo ka kia hal hota.

4. jab yaha ke doctor aur deegar members ko pata hai keh hamara mazhab islam kia kahta hai tu behtar hai keh wo doosre member ko bhi batai. sare member bat bat par alim-e-din ke pas nahi ja sakte.

5. waise bhi ilm phailane ki cheez hai. aisa nahi kia jata keh ilm apne pas rakh kar kaha jata hai keh jao alim-e-din ke pas. koi pooche keh khana right hands se khai ke left hand se tu ap kia kahe ge ke jao alim-e-din ke pas.
noorbaba Group: Members  Joined: 25th Jul, 2007  Topic: 4  Post: 33  Age:  31  
Posted on:27th Jul 2007, 7:32pm
 

Re: My Reply

1) "ham log tu apne ma, bap, bhai, bahan aur friend se bhi bahut sari islami batai poochte hai ... "
Doctor sahab mera nahi khial k apni student life mein aap ne kabhi koi medical se related cheez apney dost, yaar , cousin ya colleague se puch kar guzara kar lia ho without learning it from the Professor! or agar bachpan se ab tak aap ne aisa kia bhi hota to aaj shaid aap achey hakeem bhi na ban patey! AM I RIGHT ?
- Dr. sahab kia aap ko is baat ka ilm hai k 80% hum jasy ma baap, behan, bhai doston yaaron se islam seekhnay walon ko "Ghusal e janabat" ka tareeka nahi ata ? jo k ik bahut basic cheez hai ? is ka yeh matlab nikalta hai k un 80% logon ki zindigi napaki ki halat mein guzar rahi hai jin ka un ko pata bhi nai ?
- 40% se 50% asy hi logon k KALMAY ka talafuz theek nahi hai ?
- 80% se 85% log baynamazi hain or jo 10 se 15% log namazi hain un mein se 5 % ko namaz ka sahi talafuz nahi pata ?
Yeh mein apney jaison ki hi baat kar raha hon Dr. sahab jo ma, bap, behn bivi, tak mehdood hain. Dr. sahab afsos to isi baat ka hai k hum ne duniya ko seekhnay mein to kabhi koi compromise nahi kia lakin deen sirf "MAA, Baap Behan BHai" tak hi mehdood rakha... yahi ma, bap, behn, bhai, se deen seekhnay waley aaj "KALI BILLI k rasta kaat janey se dupak jatey hain" or na janey kia kia....
Laikin hum phir bhi fakhar se kehtey hain k "hum ne to jo bhi deen sekha inhin se seekha" !!!
Chalen agar aap ki yeh baat maan bhi leen to phir bhi ik "Unknown Sexologist approachable trough website" or "maan,baap behan, bhai" mein bara farak hy.

 

2) Mein hargiz yeh nahi chahta k bacha peeda ho tu us ko alim e deen k pass bheej dia jaye, balkey mein to yeh chahta hon k bacha peeda ho or pal barh kar jab aap ki website browse karney k kabil ho jaye tab kam az kam alim e deen k pass fatwa zaroor lenay jaye ..... kyon k "tab us ki akbat ka mamla hai" :)

3) Mere theory per amal kartey hoe agar ma, baap "khud" or apney bachon ko scholars k pass reffer kartey to shaid is se acha hi haal hota jo mein ne oper biaan kia hai.
Chalen agar aisa na bhi ho to kam az kam darjy mein ik scholar ki importance ka zaroor pata ho ta k hum is tarah intermingle na karen cheezon ko.

4) Dr. sahab yeh aap ki ik bahut achi approach hy k hum ik dosray ko islamically zaroor guide or share karen kyon k hum musalmaan hain laikin phir wohi baat a jati hai k , this is world of web, we are not infront of eachother physically thats why such sources require authenticity. You are not the one who is claiming religious guidance but there are many other fake and conspiracionary services who are exploiting Islam.
koi proof to hona chahye na doctor sahab, ye koi ghar nahi hai balkey ik bahut waseeh informational tool hy. bahut sary Jews or christians Islam ko kharab kar rahey hain, humain kia pata aap kon hain ? .. kia samjhey ?

5) Is baat ka jawab a chuka hai anyway i repeat k yahan right ya left hand se khaney k matters discuss nahi ho rahey, its a proper guidance service on a mature and deep issue (which at least ive understood)
ik or baat batata chalon jo k mein samajh raha tha k shaid aap ko pata ho gi lakin apki is baat se mughay shak honey laga hai wo yeh k Alim e deen usay kehtey hain jis k pass deen ka sahi, jamye, or mustanad(Authentic) ilm ho or yeh sahi deen ka ilam seekh kar wo loggon ka naak kaan or gala check nahi karta balkey wohi ilam agay mere jaisy naily deen k davaydaroon ko sikhata hy, jasy mashallah aap yeh soch kar kahen ghar nahi beth gye k chalo medical ki books to khareed leen hain ab doston yaaron se mazeed kuch puch lon ga in k bary mein. agar aisa kuch hoa hota to yahan aaj humain jo aap ki shafqat naseeb ho rahi hai wo na honey pati.


Ik baar phir " Dr. sahab yeh deen Maa baap ka laya hoa nahin hay. Yeh Allah k ehkamaat hain jinhain Hazoor (SAW) k tareekon par pora karney mein kamyaabi hy, or un ko un logon se sikhna pary ga jo sari sari zindigian un ko samajney mein bita detey hain jis ka Allah ne bhi hukam dia hai k "pucho un se jo janney waley hain". LET US NOT TAKE IT FOR GRANTED!!!


 

My Reply Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 2  Post: 2318  Age:  46  
Posted on:27th Jul 2007, 7:57pm
 

re: noorbaba

1. mujhe afsos hai keh mere pas apka etna lamba post read karne ka time nahi hai.

2. agar ap ko koi question ke jawab se ittefaq nahi hai tu phir kisi mufti sahib se request kare keh woh yaha akar jawab de. jab tak koi mufti sahib nahi aye ge ham log apas mai isi tarah aik doosre ko mashwarah dete rahe ge.
Bewaqoof Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 263  Post: 4444  Age:  39  
Posted on:26th Sep 2007, 12:33am
 

re: noorbaba

yar aap bare kam ke aadmi lagte ho. agar aap kisi mufti sahib ko yaha forum par jawab dene ke lia amadah kar do tu ham sab ka bhala ho jai ga. mufti sahib  ke aik jawab se lakho logo ko at a time faida ponche ga. kio keh har koi har waq mufti sahib se consult nahi kar sakta. agar aap mufti sahib ka intezam nahi kare ge tu hamai majbooran kali zuban ke article par hi guzara karna pare ga.
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