Malakand Aur Sawat: Kia Islam Talwar Se Phaila Hai?

Adaaab

Bewaqoof bhai aap ne again apni post main hemesha ki terha haqaaiq ko distore ker k paish kiya hay....let me explian u 1st that it is not ABOUT SPREADING islam, wahan 99% muslims hain..aaap k khyaal main muslamanoun ko again muslim banana perta hay????
This is a very good move by gov. to restore piece in the region, i hope you have read the whole accord b/w gov and taliban(so called), it clearly says tht it will be a justice system based on shariaa which was the part of the system before 1969, ppl wre not very happy with the judicial system..which is tazeerat-e-pakistan, isi liy logoun ne strugle ki k un ki Qazi courts dobara shuru ki jain..is main islam phelana kahan se aagya..aik aadmi ager apna huq maang raha hay to kya wo ghalat ker rha hy??
i dont understand k log shriat se itna derty kuin hain? jab ham sb ne kalma perh liya hay to y not follow it properly??? mjy shriat main koi asi cheez nikal k bta dain k jo ghalat ho?? if you took the oath to be a muslim thn we have to enter it properly and follow it other wise its evryones's chioce to break the oath and go sumwhr else!!!!!the is nothing in b/w...we can not pick and choos like BANI ISREAL!!!

re: Malakand aur Sawat

My answer

Mya nswer to your question....."aap ka kia khial hai Pakistan ke doosre cities ke baare mai? kia waha per shariat properly follow ho raha hai.."  NO..we as a pakistani nation does not even bother to follow islam!!!!!!
Islam is not to offer prayers 5 times a day....ramzan k rozy tukho...hujj ker lo..maathy pe mehraabian bna lo....islam is a way of life...and you can anlyze very easily that does our lives reprsent islam?? don't we cheat, lei, don't we opress poor and needy ppl....dont we do anything which favors us at any cost? dont we pick and chose islamic laws whr we c our banifit?? does our justice system can bring sum one like president in to the courts for hearing(example of hzarzt umer)...does our social system represnt 1% of wt islam says??? does or econmic system represent islam..sood is haram ...today how many of us dont hav saving account in banks which give u 10% sood on ur money????ham logoun ne islam ko sirf naam ki had tek kabool kiya hay werna islam ka hmian dooor ka b waasta nai..allah ko hamry rozoun ,namazoun, or hajjoun ki zroorat nai hay,,god has sent human being on this erath to do JUSTICE....in evry form..are we doing this...and if sum part of country ask for that...thn we cry out loud like sumthing out of context has happend...for god sake shriat is not  snake who wil bite us....and ppl of sawat are not sum one which has been forced to accept it.....majority of ppl support this law bcoz of the only reason tht ot gives justice to each and evryone without seening wt status he has...shriat law is not coping women rights as west cry out loud..and its not fundamentel laws of Taliban.....it is wat ppl or swat was use to it before 1969 ..for centuries thy have practic this shriya law....
now to adress ur 2nd ques.....aur agar nahi tu kia waha bhi wahi kuch hona chahiye jo keh Malakand aur Sawat mai hua?......... this is not sumthing which has been forced to the ppl or sawat....they are demanding it....the way we ppl in cities demand for more golf courses and malls....nothing is forced here...if ppl of khrachi or lahore want to hv shriya law thy can have...its the choice of ppl...but still i personally think its not our choice ..it is wt has said in Quran....we eithr has to follow it or allah has nothing to do with us if we dont care!!!

bandooq ki bajaye phool

Bewaqoof

lekin yeh haqeeqat hai keh Malakand aur Sawat mai shareeat nafiz kerne ke liye Pakistan Army se baqaida jang kerni pari hai

Is se hum sab ko ye message beherhal mil gaya hae k jahan koi hakoomat aor foj se larr k apnay mutalibay manwa sakta hae woh zaroor aisa kar guzray, Pak Army ko eik aor shikasat mubarak ho, agar Islamabad main koi Shariyat k nifaz ki baat kare to us ka hashar Lal Masjid aor Jamia Hafsa jaisa kar dain kyun k yahan pe hakoomat aor army taqat main hae laikin agar kisi area main log hakoomat aor army se ziada taqatwar hain to phir shariyat nafiz ho sakti hae. kya Hakoomat bata sakti hae k Malakand aor Sawat k naseeb main he Shariyat kyun hae, baqi Pakistan ka kya qasoor hae???

shariyat ka nifaaz

mera bhi yehi khayal hae k sirf Malakand aur Sawat mein hi kyun shariyat nafiz ki gai hae jab k yeh poora mulk bana hi shariyat k nifaz k liye tha . Quaide azam ne farmaya  tha

       k hum ne yeh mulk zameen ka TukRa hasil karne k liye nahi banaya

       bal ke is ka maqsad aisi mumlikat ka qayam hae jahan 

       Allah aur Us k Rasool(S.A.W.W.)k ahkaam ko mana jaye.

lekin us k baad jo kuch huwa woh bhi sab ne dekha kiya 6 lakh musalmano ka khoon itna sasta tha k aise mulk k liye baha diya jata. ya woh khawateen jo sikhon ne zabardasti wahan rok lin un ka hisab kon dega . sirf malakand aur sawat mein shariyat k nifaz ki barri bhari qurbani di hae muslims ne.

baber bahi

hmmm app ki bat kafi talkh hai k pakistan army ko wahan shakist ho gai hai
pakistan army nay jab wahan operation Rahe haq statrt kia tha tu hamara controll 90% area pe tha lakin bad main koi b deplomatic move nahi li gai jis ki wagah se yeh halat ho gaye

dosry bat army khud chah rahi hai k woh atleast in areas se nikly ta kay yeh mess southern punjab main na chala gaye lakin america kion k hamy chara dalta hai is liye hum us ki han main han milaty hain aik aur bat abhi jo president house main aik ijlas hua tha jis main gen kiani b thy us main yeh faisla kia gaya k swat main kafi halat jo kharab hain us ki wagah indian aur CIA ya RAW k elemnts hain agar kise tarahn se pakistan army yahan se nikalty hai tu kam se kam jo golabari hai woh band ho g tu RAW aur CIA agents ka game khatam ho ga

tesri bat k army ka aik uniform hai us ko jis nay marna hota hai mar laita hai kion k army waly pehchan main aaa jaty hain lakin miscreants ya terrorist ko marna itna asan nahi hota kion k woh civillianz k roop main hoty hain main manta houn k yahan kafi innocent log mary hain lakin in main kafi hath taliban ka b hai

jahan tak rahi bat shareat ki tu as a muslim main is ko support karta houn lakin yeh tareeka jo adopt kia gaya hai woh bohat bura hai yani takat k zor pe larkion ko school na jany dena kia koi b chaye ga k us ki beti 4 class se ziada na parhy

aur aik dafa hazrat UMER (RA)masjid main bethy thy k aik sahabi nimaz parhny aty hain aur nimaz ada kar k jany lagty hain tu hazrat umer un k peechy talwar nikal k khary ho jaty hain aur kahty hain k yeh kaise nimaz hai jo itni jaldi parhi gai hai kion k sahaba (RA) bohat aram se nimaz parhty thy tu woh sahabi dobara nimaz parhty hain jab woh dobara nimaz parh k farigh ho jaty hain app (RA) un se pochty hain k batyao kis main maza aya tu woh sahabi farmaty hain k pehly main kion k pehly main nay Allah k khof se parhi aur dosri app ki talwar k khof se tu hazrat UMER pe kapkapi tari ho jati hai aur app rona shuru kar dety hain aur un se mafi mangty hain yeeh un sahabi ka hal hai jo ASHRA E MUBASRA main shmil hain jo khalefae waqt thy
is waqya ko likhny ka maqsad sirf yeh hai shareat agar nafis karni hai tu app bachioun ko school jany se na rokain aur danda bardar shareat ko koi pasand nahi karta hum musalman hai aur shareat main he hamari nijat hai lakin is shareat nay kafi logoun ko yeh sochnay pe majboor kar dia hai k kia waqee he islam main asa hota hai kia waqee he islam talwar se phaila(ghair muslim ko)

baber bahi

main manta houn k lal masjid wala jo mamla tha woh ghalt tha aur musharaf nay b kuch din pehly usay apni aik bari ghalti mana tha lakin kal phir mukar gaya hai har pakistani aur musalmn usay ghalt manta hai lakin jo tareeka lal masged ka tha woh b koi khas sahi nahi tha unho nay china main masage centre waloun ko pakar liya dekhain hamare mazahab main logoun ko takat se nahi balkae apny amal se naik banaya jata hai warna kashmir singh ki tarhan woh log b border par kar k dubara wohi ho jaty hain jo pehly thy

lakin kia app nahi samaghty k lal masjid k ander sirf hakoomat nahi hamre ulma aur hum log bahaseat musalman sab shamil hain

jab yeh operation start nahi hoa tha tu AJJ TV pe aik citizen kah raha tha k hakoomat kia kar rahi hai yeh log hamre bachion ko tang karty hain k kam pe na jayo phir jab operation start hua tu log khush huay lakin jab muhasra lamba hona shuru hua tu wohi log kahna shuru ho gaye k army noora kushti kar rahi hai wase he muhasra kia hua hai sab ghalti hamari hai us waqt kahan thy app log kion nahi roadz pe nikly hum logoun ki aik gandi aadat hai k hum kise ghalt kam ka credit nahi laity lakin agr kise sahi kam main hamara amaldakhal na b ho tu hum us main koshish karty hain k hamy credit mil jaye molana Ghazi nay apni shadat se kuch der pehly jo interview diya tha us main unho nay kaha tha k is sare fasad ki jar siasi ulma hain jo us waqt APC main london thy
lakin jo hua ghalt hua

aik aur bat

hum sab har mamly main army ko lay aty hain tu in sab areas main jin jin parents k bachy apni janoun say jaye hain jo army main hain un gharoun main partian nahi hotu un k parents b roty hain
Ab india wala crises hua tu sab kahna shuru ho gaye k fata main india involve hai lakin jab army operate karty hai tu logoun ko masly hoty hain hum nay khud apni ankhoun se aise logoun ko dafnaya hai jin ki circumcision(khatna)nahi hoi hoti aur bohat se cheezain hain lakin chorain

army tu khud chahti hai k koi political hal nikly lakin is k ilye awam sarkoun pe nahi ati kion k hum log behis hain hum kahty hain k jo ho raha hai sahi hai kal swat main log mar rahy thy tu kah rahy thy k kuch karo jab wahan aik muahida hua tu ab roo rahy hain k kia kar diya sareat kion nafiz ho gai

akhir main baber bahi yeh app k liye nahi hai yeh na ho k app mere pecchy danda lay k par jain aur mughy maryam baji k peechy chupna pary

hamzi

agreed with you..

waise mujhe hairat hui ke apne ye bat mani ke lal masjid wale bhi sahi nahi kar rahe the.,warna is se pehle sari ki sari buraiyan aur ghaltiyan Musharaf ki nazar a rahi thin apko.mera bhi us sari behas me kehne ka yehi maksad tha ke ye koi tareeka nahi hai kissi ko duraast raah pe lane ka.

jab Islam me zor aur zabardasti nahi hai ,to ye zor zabardasti kyoon hoti hai??kahin bhi ladkiyon ke parhne pe aur kam karne me mana nahi kiya islam me,to ye zor zabardasti kyuun??

dusri bat ye ke jab koi army ke khilaf bolta hai to mujhe bohat dukh hota hai.wo log sab kuch chod ke apni jaan ki parwah kar ke mulk ke tahafuz ke lye ladte hain,aur tamasha dekhne wale unhi ko bura bhalla kehte hain..ist sad.

sunehri

adaab kasi hain aap? i hope bohata chi houngi...

well ye baat k jo accord malakand main or swat main howa...it has nothing to do with "FORCED ISLAM"  islam k phelanay ye ksi ko force kr k accept kerny ka is main koi ziker nai hay..is k naam se saaari dunya pta nai hiun der k cheekhna shuru hogai hy....it is just an accord with majority of the ppl of tht area which states k yahan pe qazi courts again shuru ki jaingi which was functioned prior to 1969 and was very successfull amoung thier results....is main na to ye kaha gya hay k elrkioun ki taleem nai hogi ...let me tell u sawat has highest litracy rate in all pakistan, sawat has more number of school thn anyothr hilly area..even can be compared to islamabd....so ye kehn ak is accord se taliban aa k apna deen nafiz ker diangy is very rong....this is demand of 7 lakh ppl of sawat which are living their for centuries....mjy koi ye btay k kya ye koi snece b banti hay k if sum how ye assume b ker liya jy k kuch taliban aa k wahan apni merzi musalat kerna chahty hain..how cum its posible to control 6 lakh ppl and force things to thm????

@HamzI.....yaar saari baat sirf itni si hay "JUSTIC" provide the justice to the people of pakistan...thy wont care who is in power...army ho ya politicians..evry one is currupt no doubt...but wts thr procedure to cope thz currupt ppl......"democracy"....is mulk main plzz democrasy chalny din...insh saary msly aik din khud hel hojiangy!!!

maby

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hamzi bhai

maryam baji

rE: CH BABAR

kya Hakoomat bata sakti hae k Malakand aor Sawat k naseeb main he Shariyat kyun hae, baqi Pakistan ka kya qasoor hae???

pehle to app ye batayen k app konsi shariyat ki baat kar rahay hain, wo shariyat jismain taleem se roka jaye, .....ya wo shariyat jismain janazay ko lejanay walon ka janaza bana diya ja, .......ya wo shariyat jismain logoun k haath kaan katain jayen ,......ya wo shariyat jismain zabardasti islam nafiz kiya jaye,......... ya wo shariyat jismain begunah afraad ko mara jaye ya wo shariyat jismain afghanistaan ko chor kar Pakistan per kabza kiya jaye ..........ya wo shariyat jismain  loagoun ki jaan o maal ko jalaya jaye ya ..........wo shariyat jismain katal o gharat ka bazaar garam kardiya jaye, ............ya wo shariyat jismain apne jismoun ko bombs se ura kar jannat main ghar banaya jaye ,........... ya wo shariyat jismain apne saath saath masoom logoun ko bhi jannat main ghar dilaya jaye ,................ya wo shariyat jismain logoun ko zabardasti islaam  sikhaya jaye................ ya wo shariyat jismain hokomat ko challenge kiya jaye ya wo shariyat jismain ek jannat nazeer khittay ko jahannum bana diya jaye,

kya yehi hamaray NABI (P.B.U.H) ki taleemaat hain, ........kya is hi tarha Hamaray Nabi (P.B.U.H) islaam ki roshni pehlatay thay,......... kya is hi tarha Hamaray NBI (P.B.U.H) nay logoun ko islaam sikhaya hai, ..........kya hamaray Nabi (P.B.U.H) khudkash hamlon ka hukum dete thay, kya Hamaray Nabi (P.B.U.H) logoun ko taleem hasil karne se roktey thay, kya hamray Nabi (P.B.U.H) aurat aur mard main tafreek farmatay thay, kya Hamaray Nabi (P.B.U.H) begunah logoun k katal ka hukum detey thay, kyaa Hamaray Nabi (P.B.U.H) apni baat manwanay k liyain katal o gharat, fanah o nuksan, zabardasti, maar kutaye, bachon ko yateem, aurton ko bewaah, maan se unka laal chek kar, baap se uski beti chen kar, bachon k school jala kar unko yateem kartay thay?..............(NAOZOBILLAH)

KYA ajj jo kuch Shariyat k naam per horaha hai wohi Hamaray Nabi (P.B.U.H) ka tareeka kaar tha, merey khayal main app pehle iska jawaab talaash karain uske baad hum agay baat kartay hain.........

Hitman

pehle to app ye batayen k app konsi shariyat ki baat kar rahay hain

Ji Shariyat sirf eik he jo mere Aaqa Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) le k aaye thay aor main usi shariyat ki baat karta ho k Pakistan main nafiz honi chahye kyun aaj se 60 saal pehlay kuch logon isi cheez ko naara banaya tha.

Kya he acha hota agar aap tasveer k dono rukh pesh kartay, hum kyun sirf wahi baat kartay hain jo humain zati tor pe achi lagti hae, kya "Pak Army" ne be gnuah logon ko nahi maara , logo k gharon pe gola bari nahi ki ??? masoom bachon aor khawateen ko nahi maara??? kya ye sabhi taliban thay??? agar Taliban zulm kartay hain to main is forum pe khulay dil se tasleem karon ga jahan jahan bhi woh ghalt kartay hain laikin taliban k mukhalif jo yahan is forum pe mojod hain koi aisa zarf wala bhi hae jo ye kahe k Army ne wahan zulm ka bazar garm kar rakha hae aor sirf aor sirf USA se paisay halal karne k liye begunah logon ko maara ja raha hae.

Main nahi kehta k Taliban ka nizam pooray Pakistan pe nafiz kar do laikin Sawat main ye nizam Hakoomat ne he qabool kiya hae ,  aap ko agar eitraz karna hae to asooli tor pe hakoomat se karna chahye , Aap ne jitnay jurm Taliban k ginwaye hain itnay he jurm Pak army ne bhi kiya hain, logon ko be gunah qatl karna eik jaisa jurm hae chahay woh Taliban karain ya Pak Army , Aor Pak Army to is main khas maharat rakhti hae , kabhi east Pakistan main, kabhi kaachi main aor kabhi Sawat, waziristan main. agar aaj Taliban ki shariyat Sawat main hakoomat ne qabool karni thi to phir itna arsa oepration kis liye kiya gaya , kon si ftah hasil ki gai aor dono tarf se jo be gunah log maare gay un ka zimmadar kon hae, akele Taliban nahi hain Pak Army is jurm main barabar ki shareek hae.

rE: Ch Babar

Hitman

jesi shariyat apke talibaan larahay hain usko dekh kar kon unhain sahi kehaiy ga? app?.......filhaal tou yehe sab se bhiyanak rukh hai shariyat ka..........chalain agar ye wohi shariyat hoti jo Hamaray Nabi Hazrat Muhammed Mustafa (P.B.U.H) nay e raaiij ki hai, tou phir main apki baat se ittefak karta.........

Taliban mere nahi hain aor na main yahan pe taliban ka wakeel hon, aap muje yahan pe ghalt tor pe pesh kar rahe hain, main kisi ki muhabbat main andha nahi hon ko har najaiz aor ghalt baat ko sahi bayan karta jaon jahan Taliban ghalti karte hain Allah ka shuker un ki ghalti tasleem karta hon,doston main bhi aor forum pe ,is se meri sham main koi kami nahi ho jati. Main ne taliban ki shariyat ki baat nahi ki baar baar kehta hon Shariyat eik he hae jo Quran , Suunat aor Sahabah Karam(R.A) ka tareeqa hae, main ne news papers main yahi read kiya hae, Hakoomat se yahi suna hae k wahan pe Shariyat nafiz kar di gai hae, to phir mera haq banta hae k main zaroor pooshon k baqi Pakistan ka kya qasoor hae , haan agar hakoomat keh de k hum ne wahan pe Taliban ki man pasand shariyat nafiz ki hae to phir main us pe bhi tabsara karon ga. jo baat jitni kahi gai hae aap us hawale se he meri baat pe tabsara karain,

app kese keh saktay hain k begunahon ko mara jaraha hai? kya app wahan commentry karne gaye thay? ya apka taluk CIA se hai? ya app Geo News main kaam kartay hain?

behes karna ya meri baat ko radd karna  aap ka haq hae laikin ye andaz theek nahi, main ne aap ki baat ka jawab dete howe kahin aap k bare main aise comments nahi diye , agar tazheek bharay andaz main reply karna hae to is behes ko yahin khatm kar dete hain.

Aap ko Taliban ki shariyat qabool hae ya nahi ye mera masla nahi hae, ye Hakoomat aor Taliban ka agreement hae, ghalt hae ya sahi aap hakoomat se ya hakoomat k kisi supporter se baat karain.muj se is tarah baat karne se aap k dil ka ghubar khatm nahi ho ga.

Jahan tak Pak Army ki baat hae sab he jantay hain k ye dushman k samn hathyar dalne wale aor mulk k logon ko fatah karne wale hain. is Army pe mazeed kya tabsara karna.

Hitman

well done

i agree 100% with you....Tussi te Chaah gaye ho ...... :)

keep it up !!!!! apke replays parh ke yehi kahungi ke mere dil ki batain ap kar rahe hain :)