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simpleguy Group: Members  Joined: 14th Apr, 2009  Topic: 3  Post: 60  Age:  30  
Posted on:19th Apr 2009, 5:19pm
 

For Dr PK And All Forum Members

Hi,

I posted a reply in the topic "Sex, Halal, Haram & Mushtabah" started by Mr Rizvi, My reply was considered to be indecent and according to the moderator contained "bad language" therefore deleted. When I asked for an explanation on this the moderator in his reply made several groundless accusations that I have found really astonishing specially coming from such a high source, I have answered below all the accusations, and I want you to read them thoroughly and tell me how I am wrong in this and how moderators behaviour in dealing with situation is justified. 

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Moderator's Comments

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1. ur language was not gud 2.yehi sawaal beesyouN martabah poocha jachuka hai. aap pahlay post paRhna seekhaiN phir sawaal karaiN. 3. aap nay jaan boojh kar diccussion ka rukh change karnay ki koshish ki. be carefull next time n don't repeat the same mistake again. thanx

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Answering Moderators Accusations

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I am a senior member and active participant of 100 other non-Pakistani forums and work as a Junior Moderator at Amazon.co.uk forum, in my entire life I have never witnessed such derogatory, accusing and unprofessional behaviour from a Moderator that I have just witnessed here from the first Pakistan based forum that I ever joined and participated in.  I will deal with your accusation one by one-

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Accusation number 1- ur language was not gud – I never used a single slang word in my entire post, the terms that I used were common and technical terms used in medical science.  If you provide an example proof of bad language used instead of accusing someone, I will be happy to look into it and admit that what I said was wrong and indecent.  But if you continue to persist that the language was wrong and what I wrote was of perverse or satanic nature and against the spirit of islam then I will give you reference to similar parts in "Book for Married Men" that is also worthy of censorship using your gifted logic.

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Accusation number 2- yehi sawaal beesyouN martabah poocha jachuka hai.- aap pahlay post paRhna seekhaiN phir sawaal karaiN  Ok I agree I may have been careless I should have double checked whether this question was previously asked or not but what Crime have I committed by double posting, also I didn't create one entire separate, standalone topic thread to discuss this issue, I only asked where discussion between forum members was already taking place about the Halal ways of achieving sexual satisfaction with one's wife and I asked a question which was directly related to that topic. (see last paragraph for background).

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            post paRhna seekhaiN phir sawaal karaiNIs this how a moderator or a senior member of a forum suppose to treat its forum members? You are now a senior member; you should behave in professional manner and as s role model instead of belittling others by questioning other people's intellect and incompetence in learning to write and ask questions.

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Accusation number 3. aap nay jaan boojh kar diccussion ka rukh change karnay ki koshish ki.-  this is easily the most ridiculous and unjustified accusation out of all 3 made so such so that even a blind man can notice it, Sir, you have no right to judge other peoples mental intent when they are asking questions, you are a moderator not a psychologist, I am requesting all members to read the text in last paragraph and tell me whether I was deliberately trying to deviate from the topic or not, the question was about an alternative way of achieving sexual satisfaction during wife's menses or pregnancy and whether there was anything in Islam that prohibits it just like sex inside anus, I cannot see how my question is not related to the topic discussed- does it not come under either "Sub category A-halaal sex " or "Subcategory B- Haram Sex" if it is considered to be Haram?

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Background to what was asked-

Brother rizvi wrote that "mubasharat sirf vagina me ki jasakti" in Subcategory A- Halal sex, so in return I asked a simple question (not to argue with brother rizvi) but to gain some knowledge about it "Is it also islamicaly write to satisfy one's sexual needs using wife's chest when wife is in her menses or pregnant to a baby? I asked this question in a pure spirit because from Sub category A I learnt that sex can only take place in vagina, every other alternative act is illegal and haram?

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This was a perfectly valid question at that time but since then I have found it is also been talked about in "Book for Married" men which I read again in detail yesterday so my question remains to moderator what did I say that was so offensive and disgusting that it deserved censorship but please this time show some proof to backup your claim intstead of resorting to tactics of deleting the post in an unjustified manner and accusing someone.

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Im waiting.

simpleguy Group: Members  Joined: 14th Apr, 2009  Topic: 3  Post: 60  Age:  30  
Posted on:19th Apr 2009, 5:27pm
 

DoctorPk-all forum members plz read this and explain

if anyone can justify that moderator's action was correct in dealing with this matter then i am prepared to bow my head down in shame and never come to this forum again ever.
dom_man Group: Members  Joined: 13th Mar, 2009  Topic: 76  Post: 1346  Age:  35  
Posted on:19th Apr 2009, 6:54pm
 

yes simpleguy

yes i agree with simpleguy.Moderators plz explain your POV.
Kali Zuban Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 29  Post: 1792  Age:  29  
Posted on:19th Apr 2009, 7:41pm
 

re: deleted post

deleted topic restore kerne ki permission wale moderators se request hai keh woh simpleguy ke deleted post ko restore kar de takeh ham log bhi dekh sake keh asal post mai kia tha.
sharmily Group: Members  Joined: 08th Nov, 2008  Topic: 5  Post: 398  Age:  26  
Posted on:19th Apr 2009, 9:41pm
 

i agree

i agree with simpleguy

i have noticed many topics which just rubbish but no one has deleted them.

with all my Respect to the Moderator of this forum some seniors of this forum doesn,t know how to talk or coment to people  coz i have recieved some cheap comments that are not expected from the seniors:-(  

mna1978 Group: Members  Joined: 27th Jan, 2009  Topic: 15  Post: 383  Age:  36  
Posted on:20th Apr 2009, 5:43am
 

Yes I Also Agree

Dear main ny bhi keyee bar dekha hai kay modurators khabi khabi kuch zeyada ke ihteyat say kaam laty hain...

My logon was blocked once with out any reason, and i emailed dr. rizwan and he restored my id.. in return dr. rizwad replied that i have no idea why your login was blocked..

Second.... once i saw that a modurator edited a post from docter Kk... this is totally unbelievable... after all these experts(doctor KK etc) make this forum really great...well i think modurators should not be allowed to edit the post of "experts group" the thread i am talking about is "Vaginal Thrush" in married women problem...

Rest i agree to what ever you have said....

KNIGHT Group: Members  Joined: 29th Jul, 2013  Topic: 18  Post: 259  Age:  22  
Posted on:20th Apr 2009, 10:25am
 

@ Mods

Moderators ko carefull rehna chahiyaii, i also noticed that some mods do not follow the rules and do that which they want
simpleguy Group: Members  Joined: 14th Apr, 2009  Topic: 3  Post: 60  Age:  30  
Posted on:20th Apr 2009, 4:19pm
 

Dear Kali Zuban

Dear Kali zuban,

i hope you will look into my very first Question in Mr Rizvi reply and consider/compare them in light of what i have answered in this topic, you will notice that there was nothing wrong with them in terms of bad language and Question was related to either category halal or haram in Rizvi's topic. if you do not find anything wrong then please restore my original posts this is the very least i am expecting otherwise ask the mod concerned to justify his action.

Some family responsibilities are not permiting me to come to this forum again in future therefore this is likely to be my final post.  My stay was very short and I did not spend enough time to make some friends here but i would like to thank all forum members, this is an excellent forum where everyone have a chance of sharing their problems related to sexual life, removing silly misconceptions about sex and learning what islam permits and prohibits, all  members who are sacrificing their valuable time to invest in this forum are  doing a great neki and will get lots of blessings in this world and hereafter. Insha'Allah.  I may come back in 2 years time when i am planning on my first child...lol.

All moderators also please pay consideration to the Concerns raised by Knight, MNA19878 & Sharmily.

Thankyou so much.
love from Atif

Note- Dom_man please read your thread and answer a question in "Sizzling28 is my wife", thanks.
simpleguy Group: Members  Joined: 14th Apr, 2009  Topic: 3  Post: 60  Age:  30  
Posted on:23rd Apr 2009, 7:14pm
 

thanks

hi im back for some more time, couldnt resist!, thanks for restoring.
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