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Husband Wife Relationship: Can Husband Beat His Wife?

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seriously Group: Members  Joined: 12th Dec, 2007  Topic: 24  Post: 313  Age:  57  
Posted on:8th Jan 2008, 2:31pm
 

Husband Wife Relationship: Can Husband Beat His Wife?

Is forum main aik discussion chal raha hay shohar ki pitai ka woh to aik mazaq hay. Laikin Quran shohar ko biwi key pitai allow karta hay. See the following verses from Quran. Personaly main is translation say agree nahi karta hoon magar Islam kay saray school of thought is he translation say agree kartay hain. Ab is forum kay intelligent members batain unka kia khial hay ? Agar aap ka eh excuse hay kah aap mullah nahi aur is baray main kuch nahi kah saktay toh eh aik lame excuse hay kion kay musalman honay key wajah say aap ka farz hai kah apnay deen ko sumjhain aur dosroon ko bhi samjhain.

Noble Verses 4:34-36 "(34). Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them ; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

P.S: Please sirf apney original thoughts batain internet say copy paste na karain kion kah , meray pass bhi internet hay aur main internet ko istemal karna janta hoon.

seriously Group: Members  Joined: 12th Dec, 2007  Topic: 24  Post: 313  Age:  57  
Posted on:8th Jan 2008, 6:09pm
 

reply: Husband Wife Relationship

I have already cleared it in my opening comments.

" Personaly main is translation say agree nahi karta hoon "

Just becasue of this verse and many other verses which are misinterpreted and mistranslated  I started the study of Quran , Quranic Arabic and various tafaseer ul quran.

There is so much misinformation and misinterpretation of Quran , Hadees and Fiqh and so many  people get misguided because of it. If you will ask people in Muslim and western world they will quote this verse of holy quran and say islam allows wife beating. This is my effort to clarify this misconception.

Main apnay khialat aur maqalat sub say akhir main doon ga. Let us see what others have to say about it.

nikama Group: Members  Joined: 15th Oct, 2007  Topic: 47  Post: 1808  Age:  35  
Posted on:8th Jan 2008, 6:31pm
 

reply: Husband Wife Relationship

yaps,in my point of view,if wife tries to cross her limits according to religion,husband is allowed to punish her ,first gentally,warnings,stringly then at last little bit beat but not harshly.  thanks 
josh Group: Members  Joined: 30th Jul, 2007  Topic: 47  Post: 2285  Age:  37  
Posted on:9th Jan 2008, 6:50am
 

reply: Husband Wife Relationship

is mai three steps hain, agar bv disloyal & ill-conduct /badQirdaar hai to usay samjhao / warn karo k you are not doing well. phir bi na baaz aye to refuse to share bed, phir na baz aye to phir usay maaro.. pata nai kis had tak marna hai. mr. seriously i am waiting for your detailed reply on this post ...

seriously borther u are right , islam chat rooms mai jao to kafir ye question aksar kartay hain...

sunny007 Group: Members  Joined: 22nd Dec, 2007  Topic: 44  Post: 4204  Age:   
Posted on:9th Jan 2008, 10:12am
 

reply: Husband Wife Relationship

agreed to josh.

josh ne sari batein islam k mutabiq hi sent ki hai. jahan tak marne ka taloq hai to wo b v ko samjane ki had tak allowed hai, us ko hurt karne k had tak nahi. aur ager is se b baz nahi aye aur togather zindagi basar karna mushkil ho jaye to pir islam main is masle ka hal talaq hai.

lekin ek hadith k mutabiq ALLAH k nizdeek jayez kamon main talaq sab se na ppasndeeda amal hai. es lie koshish karna chahie k inkishafat itne na barh jaye k bat talaq tak pohnch sake. ye amal us waqt uthana chahye jab aap k pass dossra rasta na ho.

BeautyStar Group: Members  Joined: 16th May, 2007  Topic: 52  Post: 3586  Age:  27  
Posted on:10th Jan 2008, 7:23pm
 

reply: Husband Wife Relationship

Islam ma Zina ki kiya punishment hai ? 80  kordey ... right? Yes !

So agar kisi ki Bivi iss taraf ja rahey hai  tou uss ko chahiyah kah pehley Informal way ma samjhey phir Formal warning dey , phir bed share nahi karey or finally uss beat karey ...... I think 2 thappar 80 kordoon se behtar hai ... kyun seriously bahi sahi kaha mai ne ?
BeautyStar Group: Members  Joined: 16th May, 2007  Topic: 52  Post: 3586  Age:  27  
Posted on:10th Jan 2008, 8:13pm
 

reply: Husband Wife Relationship

I have no words to say but ......

ALLAH ordered the believers to
Consort with women in kindness
(Surah Nisa , Chapter 4 , Verse 19)

Respect the womb that bore you.
(Surah Nisa , Chapter 4 , Verse 1)




Mnadeem Group: Members  Joined: 01st Sep, 2007  Topic: 2  Post: 231  Age:   
Posted on:14th Jan 2008, 4:42am
 

reply: Husband Wife Relationship

Dear, Sir Seriously.

 

As you mentioned in your post that only your original thoughts is to be post here, so I am writing now.

In my last post to you, I mentioned about my school of thought very clearly with the names of all groups of people who paractic the same believe what I do. With the reference of that group of people

 

" main kuch apney bariy mein thoori se wazaht kar doon ta kay aap meri baat ko meri shaksiat kay hawaly say aasani say samajh saken, merey maktab-e- fikar kay log allahtala ki rah main larna or jan dena farze-e- eene samajhtay hein, merey maktab-e-fikar ka yey pukhta aqeeda hay kh jo shaks is khawahish ya irradey key baghair mar jay, yani " allahtala ki rah main larney ke khawahis " to woh nifaq pay mara.

 

Merey maktab-e-fikar kay log allahtala ki rah main larney ke dooran islam key dushman or musalmano key dushman ko zindah pakarney ki soorat main gooli say nahi martey balkay "zibah" karna faraz samajhtey hain, keyon kay aisa kerna merey nabi ka hokum hay. (aap ko yaqinan meri shaksiat aur zehniat ka andazah ho gaya ho ga)"

 

In my personnel life no body can imagine about my that thoughts. I am a very polite and gentle person. I can not see the child and women abusing in the movies even. I see the parents beating their child, and I amaze that how these people do this things. If some say to me that, "Mr. Nadeem here is a dog, and this is a club, you hit this club on the dog's leg, and you will be reward with a great amount." Believe me Mr. serious that I can't do this. Now, you can have idea about my thoughts regarding beating a woman and especially to WIFE.

 

The reference you gave for a Holly AIAT is translated correctly, But before discussion on that AIAT, we should understand some basics of learning the Holly Quran. Keep in your mind that Holly Quran is not a flat book of some stories. Holly Quran is a very comprehensive manual of  MANKIND. In the Holly Quran there are many ways of guidance of Muslims, for example; the teaching way of Quran is to transfer: Information, instruction, suggestions, options and orderes.

 

In the cited Holly AIAT, Allah Subhanaho Tala is giving the options for different kind of men and women as per their tests. But keep in your head that, these options are not order to men, but as an option if they see that the problem can solve.

 

The word written in the Holly AIAT is " Wad rib Hunna " don't means beating for hurting, but for showing the unhappiness or expression of angriness. This has also been mentioned that never hit on the face of animal even. So the cheeky light blow should be under the neck or shoulders.

 

Actually word (beating) of English language is very very negative, this word covers all kind of torture. and all extent of hurt-ness, even up to death. But the Holly Quran is advising to spouse, so you can imagine that what kind of this beating can be. In my opinion:

 

An Example of beating:

Two very close friend of same age often express their angriness with light hit to each other, or two brother and sister often quarrel and hit to each other for expression of unhappiness, but after a shot fight they mix again. Since I am unmarried person and may not understand the husband and wife relationship. So, my opinion may be wrong, but to be very frank I personally can not afford this kind of treatment with women, because I think that fear of bashing can only horrify the slaves, but not to any free or independent persons, and some time you can not correct your own chilled. But I have very firm believe that what ever written in the Holly Quran is in favor MANKIND.

seriously Group: Members  Joined: 12th Dec, 2007  Topic: 24  Post: 313  Age:  57  
Posted on:14th Jan 2008, 3:36pm
 

reply: Husband Wife Relationship

And I agree with the research of
Islamic Research Foundation International as per article number 942.
Since I cannot post link therefore use google to look for this article.
For Detail Click On Page No: 1
 
 
 
 
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