Sooth
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Posted on:24th Apr 2009, 6:14am |
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Are You Afraid Of Taliban Or Of Anarchy? Are you afraid of Taliban or lawlessness in country? In your opinion who is spreading terrorism? How can we save Muslim nations from the Propagandas of Non-Muslims?
First America Captured Africa and use Africans as Slaves and they get work from Africans forcefully and by torturing them even to increase the population of slaves and to get more labors for the development of their country, they force the African males to do intercourse with their African Real Sisters.
When it comes to division of sub-continent at the time of independence, it was unjust and here again Europe (non-Muslims) was involve.
Kashmir issue is still unresolved because united nation involves in solving the problem and united nation has no influence in solution of problems of Muslim nations and America and India are in union against Pakistan and other Muslim nations.
Now comes to Palestine, here again the America and Israel are involve.
America enters in each Muslim country with the pretext reasons like promise to solve its socioeconomic problems or to bring changes (like in development, reducing poverty, improving living conditions or to reduce political instability) but real picture is always reverse which is America left any Muslim country after war and destruction in that country and In all these cases American Finance companies are involve for aid but in history no such record is found about the changes which brought America in those countries whether it is Iraq, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Palestine and Kashmir.
Kings and princes of Saudi Arabia are under the control of America and they are puppets.
Oil resources cause many crises in the world history as American Ex-President said that "America is addicted of oil." And now in this era Nuclear power resources are problematic and a global issue.
America said that "India is the leader of sub-continent" and American next target is Pakistan and Iran.
This is the limit. Who give the America and non-Muslims this strength to do this? Actually we Muslims are weak and not unite plus we can't understand the conceal plans of our enemies and we Have less faith in ALLAH. How far we will let the Americans and non-Muslims go? Now Muslims should be unite and Keep the faith in ALLAH and follow His orders in proper way. |
dom_man
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Posted on:24th Apr 2009, 9:28am |
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My detailed comments later Thanx for this thread.I was dying to discuss this issue.Very nice post and analysis from u.I will give my detail insight on this later in the day. |
myrizvi
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Posted on:24th Apr 2009, 10:06am |
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bahoot khoob sooth ji ... very nice thread. jazak Allah khairaaN |
dom_man
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Posted on:24th Apr 2009, 10:39am |
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Talibanization well..it is a complicated issue.I personally may not be in agreement with all the policies of Talibaans but one thing is clear that they are being criticised by the global media to justify the american and Nato's presence in this region so that they can capture the natural resources of the muslim world.
And the unfortunate thing is that the so called modren muslims have started to have reservation about them.i know they are not as good as they should have been but at least their commitment to implemment shariah is really applaudable. if they come in power the muslims can reach to a consensus which would be acceptable for all the muslims.on some issues theri interpretation of islam is wrong but we shouldnt be emotional and starting ignoring what american and coalition are doing.
It is an absolute law of social sciences that its the nature of victim that determine the issue of morality i.e every one started criricising islam in the west just by seeing a video of a gal being flogged by the talibaans but no one talks about dr Afia sidiqui. NGOs who are notoriously hypocrite and carry westren agenda give hype to the issues in the muslims to get funds from their westren masters.
If even a one person is killed in the west it makes a breaking news all over the world but muslims are being slaughtered in thousands every day without creating any sympathy in these hypocrites minds.
No one condemnes drone attacks and the war on the poor people of iraq and afghanistan but every one joins the bandwagon when they see a muslim doing anything like that.
This is sheer hypocrisy.But i think if Talibaan were bit smarter and made themselves desirable for pakistani people they could have won much more support.but their mistakes doesnt justify our support to the hypocrite westren powers and their slave NGOs in pakistan. |
myrizvi
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Posted on:25th Apr 2009, 4:41am |
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well said dom_man Read n agreed... Jazak Allah kairaaN |
submarine
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Posted on:25th Apr 2009, 6:10am |
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ree bhai saare aik hi thaali kay chattay battay he. Naa Talibaan Ki samaj aati he wo kiya he naa hi america ki. Bhai America, Israil, India, Britain. Ye Pakistan Kay saffe awwal ke dushman he |
myrizvi
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Posted on:25th Apr 2009, 6:24am |
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submarine yeh sara gorakh dhandah / mela iss lieh lagayaa gaya hai k paksitan ko kamzor tar / ToTay Totay karkay iska eTmi hathyaar cheen lia jae ... iss par sab muttafiq haiN... usa, uk, india aur deger ittehadi including afghanistan o pakistan k elite /ruling tabqah...
talibaan ko usa nay banayaa ... mosallah kia... ussr ko ToRnay k liyeh use kia ab bhi (indirectly) apnay cia /indian /afghani agents k zariyeh asleha /maal ki support day raha hai aur onhaiN onki kamzori / islami nizaam ko use kar raha hai......... taaliban say "oskay ham khayaal cia agents" kahtay hain tum aagay baRho hum tumharay (unofficially) saath hain... aur pakistan say kahtay haiN k inn par hamla karo... yeh saf.bandi usa ki chaal hai jiss main dounouN taraf muslims maray jarahay haiN...
yeh silsilah aagay baRhta hi rahega... jab tak pakistani rulers ko aqal nahi aajati aur woh usa ki jang laRna band nah kardaiN...
Allah hamara haami o naasir ho |
sunehri76
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Posted on:25th Apr 2009, 6:27am |
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Pk ka Dushman Afghanistan bhi hai... not only america & india.. |
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Posted on:25th Apr 2009, 6:41am |
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RE Sunheri beshak Sunheri G Pakistan ka dushman Afghanistan bhi he agar ham history uthaa kar dekhe to pata chal jata he kay Afhanistan wo wahid mulak tha jisne pakistan ki United nation me mukhalifat ki thi
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myrizvi
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Posted on:26th Apr 2009, 2:57am |
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Afghanistan sirf talibaan k ahad maiN pakistan ka dost mulk raha hai... taliban say qabal yeh ussr ki lobby kamulk tha aur talibaan k baad usa ki lobby ka... balkay lobby say zeyadah afghani hukmraan ussr /usa k agent kaTputli hukmraan k taur par pakistan dushmani kartay rahay haiN.... |
sharmily
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Posted on:26th Apr 2009, 8:43am |
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noo wrong Pakistan is the enemy well to be honest
Pakistan is the enemy of Afghanistan, and peace.
once upon a time benazir bhutto they were supporting Taliban and they are doing it now also they are training there. from where they got their sources obviously pakistan is helping them.
therefore they are doing so many attacks and killing people, nobody is to be blamed but only Pakistan and its government.
if they are not then y taliban are going freely in pakistan they live their they are training there.
YY can,t pakistani government get rid of them.
Taliban are showing people the different islam, women can,t go to school, they can,t work there is nothing like this in islam.
Hazarat Khadija tul kubra was a business women, and omuhatulmominen Ayesha was a teacher of islam.
nobody was killing people like taliban are doing in the time of the prophet saw.
so i hate them, i am a muslim but they are showing me the wrong religion.
u can,t kill a christian or jewesh person just becoz he is not muslim. religion is not a force, jis ne Allah ka rasta ikhtiyar kia woh janat mein jaiga jis ne nahin kia woh oski saza paliga.
are nonmuslims ko to choro taliban idiots to muslimano ka be qatal karti.
i just hate them.... |
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Posted on:26th Apr 2009, 8:46am |
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noo wrong Pakistan is the enemy well to be honest
Pakistan is the enemy of Afghanistan, and peace.
once upon a time benazir bhutto they were supporting Taliban and they are doing it now also they are training there. from where they got their sources obviously pakistan is helping them.
therefore they are doing so many attacks and killing people, nobody is to be blamed but only Pakistan and its government.
if they are not then y taliban are going freely in pakistan they live their they are training there.
YY can,t pakistani government get rid of them.
Taliban are showing people the different islam, women can,t go to school, they can,t work there is nothing like this in islam.
Hazarat Khadija tul kubra was a business women, and omuhatulmominen Ayesha was a teacher of islam.
nobody was killing people like taliban are doing in the time of the prophet saw.
so i hate them, i am a muslim but they are showing me the wrong religion.
u can,t kill a christian or jewesh person just becoz he is not muslim. religion is not a force, jis ne Allah ka rasta ikhtiyar kia woh janat mein jaiga jis ne nahin kia woh oski saza paliga.
are nonmuslims ko to choro taliban idiots to muslimano ka be qatal karti.
i just hate them.... |
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Posted on:26th Apr 2009, 10:11am |
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rE:sharmily great post sharmily i agree with you well all politicians are corrupted & they all are parasites they use the word jamhooriat(democracy) to fool the nation. |
saim1
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Posted on:27th Apr 2009, 2:58pm |
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i think I think all taliban want is Islamic law in Pakistan,their way of doing it might be wrong but them wanting Islamic law is not wrong
don't think that i m in favor of taliban but i m only saying what is truth
they are doing that in Pakistan because thay know that Pakistani government is weak,but American medai is claiming that behind taliban there are 3 countries working Rusia,Afghanistan and India but what is the truth behind that god knows
only thing i can say is if taliban want Islamic law in Pak so i tdepands on people what thay want,from what i know that majority of paki people are against taliban
but on the other hand some people are in favor of taliban and Islamic law becaus Pakistan being Islamic coutry should have islamic laws
but i think things are getting worst in pak and it can lead to war but we can only pary and hope for good |
sharmily
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Posted on:27th Apr 2009, 8:02pm |
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Re: Saim Arif Ok
I got ur point yes they want to bring the islamic law in Pak:-)
but Tell one thing ,Jise khud yeh nahin pata ki Islamic law hai kia then how can they bring the islamic law.
* Girls can,t go to school is this an islamic law if yes then proof it.
* Man should be beared no man is allowed to shave is this islamic law, Dari rakna Sunnat hai Faraz nahin, It is obtional no body can force u to have it or shave it.
*Remeber our prophet Saw had business relationship with nonmuslims, and they were living peacefully, nobody was killing any nonmuslim with out a sepcific reason.
Even in war Our prophet Saw used to order the sahaba that don,t harm, the Old people, women, and children. That was the real Islam.
Taliban are doing the opposite, They kill children, they beat women, they kill old people, and all of them are muslims.
Is this Islamic law that Taliban are saying No MR -Not at all.
very less percentage of their islamic things are right otherwise remained is completly barbarac.
God bless you
Taliban are acting very barbarac. |
saim1
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Posted on:27th Apr 2009, 8:35pm |
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sharmily i agree with you
that's why i said their way of doing is wrong,if they want islamic law in pak they should olso follow islamic rules
that's why i said i m not in favor of taliban because they are killing innocent people wich is prohibited in islam
but i just want to say don't believe in every thing which you see or read through the media because what medai shows 50% is not true just like geo tv was showing that video of girl getting beaten up by taliban,peolple are saying that video is eight months old
and another thing imagine talibans are such a small group how come they are doing so much in Pakistan and Paki army cannot control them?I think things are happning on the higher level |
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Posted on:27th Apr 2009, 8:44pm |
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pk me islami law ho is se achi koi bat nahi ho sakti..but shart yehi hai
islami law Hazrat Muhammad (saw) ki Sunnat& Hadees aur Quran-e-pak se ek harf idhar se udhar na ho to Islami law is the best thing for Pakistan.
but what the Talibans are doing is not right... |
sharmily
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Posted on:27th Apr 2009, 9:34pm |
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Saim Arif (
and another thing imagine talibans are such a small group how come they are doing so much in Pakistan and Paki army cannot control them?I think things are happning on the higher level)
Isi baat ka to dukh hai i agree that they have a strong support behind them, are Usa chand par char gaya aur ek osama ko nahin pakar sakta,,,, what is this rubbish, million ki fauj ek hazar Taliban ko nahin pakarsakti........
mein to kehti ho yeh siysat hai is ki dunia mein saab jaiz hai, chahe woh begunah muslimano ka khon he kiyon naho.........Thats what they think :-(
Only God can help us,
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Posted on:28th Apr 2009, 8:45am |
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AGreed with Sharmily Sharmily ji, aap tou chha gai hain.
Talibaan pehle apne andar tou shariat laayen phir ja ke bahir ka sochain. Barbar's shops ko bamoon se urana aur zabardasti daarhi rakhwana kahan ka Islam hai. Aap ne yeh baat b theek kahi ke Pakistan khud responsible hai Talibaan ko aagay laanay ka aur ab apni boi hui fasal kaatni parrh rahi hai. Agar pehle darmiyaani raah apnai hoti tou aaj yeh din na dekhne parrte. Pakistan ne gher mulki taqtoon ke isharay par pehle Talibaan peda kiay jo aaj khud Pakistan ke liay threat bnay huay hain aur Khuda ki Qudrat daikhiay Benazir Sahiba Taibaan ko aagay laaieen aur yeh loag Peoples Party ki Government k liay hi sar dard bnay huay hain. Bad-qismati se hamaray apne andar b bht bara tabqa hai jo Talibaan ko har haal main support krta hai. Inn ke nazdeek, jab Talibaan Afghanistan main Muslimaanun ki gardanain kaat rahe thay tab b yeh Hero thay aur jab aaj apne mulak ko qurban gaah bnaya hai tab b hero hain. Main aise logoon ko aksar yehi mashwara deta hoon ke Janab-e-mann aap ko agar yeh itne hi pasand hain tou aap zara posh ilaqoon se nikal kar Swat dera laga lain jahan har waqt deh-shat raqas krti hai. Lkn yeh fayeda zaroor ho jayega keh iss tarah aap ba-sharai zindagi guzaar lain ge. |
sharmily
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Posted on:28th Apr 2009, 8:23pm |
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Bhimji i agree YES i Agree
I want to say one thing to the Pakistani Governament,,,,,, jo asteen ka sanp rakhti hai, onki saath aisa he hota hai, ab app he ki bili app ko miyo kar rahi hai.
And u deserve it but i really feel sad for The People of Pakistan jini khaw makhaw yeh sabh boghat na parta hai.
May God Bring Peace in The World:-) |
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