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myrizvi |
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| Posted on:9th Aug 2009, 10:51pm |
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 weldone waterr
kis nay kahaa k ap arguments main poor hai...... masha Allah ap nay to bewaqoof (not mine) bhai ko medical aur islamic hawaloun say maat day dee hai. agar koi ghair jaanibdaar judge ap dounouN ko read karay to winning troffy ap k haathoun maiN hi dega :)
yeh alag baat hai k baaz log ... main nah maanouN... ki ruT lagaa.ay rahtay haiN. bewaqoof bhai ki iss forum maiN yehi history hai..... woh jab bahas maiN haar jaatay hain to kahtay hain.... nothing is wrong, u r also not wrong and bewaqoof is also not wrong. haaaa haaa ap dekhiyeh gaa jald hi woh yehi kahnay walay hain.......... ab dunyaa ka kaun say aqalmand aisaa hogaa jo yeh kahay k .......... bewaqoof (ki bewaqoofi) is not wrong:) |
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Waterr |
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| Posted on:9th Aug 2009, 11:46pm |
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Myrizvi.. I am thankful to u really .. What i meant by saying poor at arguments was k mai fight nai kar sakti... Cuz whenevr thr is a fight i get heavy heart.. Baqe i am totally convinced k g khud lazati is one of filthiest act n inshalah my post readerz wil atleast thnk for once whther wat thy do is totaly not rite.. |
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Bewaqoof |
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| Posted on:10th Aug 2009, 2:52am |
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masturbation ka aqeeda ya delusion re: "I thnk ye beliefs ka difrnc ha... Mery nazdeek khud lazati"
pehle iss baat ko clear kare keh aap masturbation ke baare mai apna belief bata rahi hai ya scientific daleel. aap aik medical student hai, lehaza aap se tawaqqo ki jaati hai keh aap apni baat ko proof kerne ke liye medical reference se baat kare gi, lekin abta aap ne medical references se baat nahi ki hai, jab keh dunia bhar ke medical references (doctor and psychiatrist) ke mutabiq masturbation medically harmful nahi hai. balkeh bivi ki ghair mojood gi mai masturbation kerne ka mashwara dia jaata hai.
Islamic point se bhi agar disagree kerti hai tu phir proper Hadeth aur Quranic reference de, zabardasti meaning na nikale. waise bhi Islimic reference se baat kerne ka haq sirf Ulma ko hai jo keh Arabic likh perh aur samajh sakte hai, aur onho ne deen ka mukammal course kia hua hai. ham jaise log ko nahi jo na Arabic jaante hai aur na hi deen ka proper ilm haasil kia hai, sirf darmian darmian se dooro ke reference ke zaria baat kerna deeni uloom mai mahir hona nahi kehlaye ga.
aap jo bhi baat ker rahi hai woh aqeeda ki buniad per ker rahi hai. jis tarah aqeed change nahi ho sakta (likhe hindu, muslim, deobandi, barelvi, shia) isi tarah aap ka aqeeda about masturbation bhi change nahi kia jaa sakta. aap neutral ho ker baat kare, aur masturbation ke again scientific proof de.
aqeeda mai log pehle maante hai phir saboot talash kerte hai, isi tarah aap ne bhi kisi saboot ke beghair masturbaito ke baare mai sirf maan liye, aur ab os aqeeda ke favor mai saboot talash kerne ki nakam koshish ke rahi hai. aqeeda wale log kabhi bhi qail nahi hote, kia aap kisi deobandi, barelve, shia ko os ke aqeeda ke khilaf qail ker sakti hai, isi tarah aap ko bhi masturbation aqeeda ke khilaf qail nahi kia jaa sakta. kio keh aap ne pehle aqeed ikhtiar kia hai aur phir baad mai saboot talash ker rahi hai.
jab tak aap neutral aur unbiased ho ker nahi soche gi aap ko qail kerna mushkil hai. aap aik medical student hone ke bawajood dunia bhar ke medical reference ko tasleem nahi ker rahi hai tu phir aap ko kaise qail kia jaa sakta hai. medical student ko tu medical reference se hi qail kia jaa sakta hai. lekin aap ne abhi se farz ker lia hai keh medical reference ghalat bhi ho sakta hai( yani yaha per aap sirf aur sirf belief ki bunyad per baat ker rahi hai). phir tu aap medical college se apna name katwa le, kio keh aap jo kuch study ker rahi hai wo ghalat bhi ho sakta hai. iss qisim ki baato ko delusion kehte hai. kia aap ko delusion aur aqeeda ka farq maloom hai?
jab log aqeeda change kare ge hi nahi tu phir bahas kerna Bhains ke aage been bajane ke barabar hai. myrizvi ke mutabiq aise hi moqa per mai kehta hoo keh Nothing wrong in this world. yaani aap bahas sirf aur sirf iss liye ker rahi hai keh aap apne aap ko sahi samajhti hai, chahe dunia aap ko ghalat samajh rahi ho. |
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Szagham |
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| Posted on:10th Aug 2009, 3:23am |
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Nice Thinking,Good Advise as well Dear Waterr sis,
Aslam-o-Alaikum, First of all i would like to appreciate to you for your all posts regarding Masturbation. Secondly i would like to appreciate to you by having good thnking as well as advises. Sis ap ne bilkul sahi kaha mai khud is baat se itifaq karta hun k hum logon ko apney nafas par qaboo rakhna chahiye,
Bewaqoof bahi don't mind plz lakin in very short words, mai ap se sirf ye poochna chahta hun k agar masturbation na krney ka ni kaha gaya tu mje ye batayein k phir ALLAH G NE Ehtilam ka nazaam q rakha, aur phir kia sex frustration males mein hi hoti hai females mein ni hoti?? Agar phir females masturbation karein aur hymen reputure kar lein tu kia ya theek hoga.
phir mje ye batayein k ALLAH G NE RAMAZAN ka month q rkha hamarey lye,,ta k hum practice kar sakein,,bhooka rehney ki,,apney nafas ko har tareeqey se qaboo mein rkhney ki etc,,,,
Islye i think we should control. aur is baat pe mutafiq rahein k ALLAH G NE ye jo nazaam banaya hai na EHTILAAM KA is se hi humein sex frustration se relieve miley ga.
Allah Hafiz,
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Bewaqoof |
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| Posted on:10th Aug 2009, 4:07am |
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re: msturbation re: "Agar phir females masturbation karein aur hymen reputure kar lein tu kia ya theek hoga."
hymen rupture kiye beghair bhi masturbation ki jaa sakti hai, female masturbation sirf aur sirf shareef khawateen kerti hai, jo boyfriend nahi rakhti. warna jo khawateen boy friend se sex ya foreplay karwati hai onhai masturbation ki zaroorat hi nahi hoti. hamare culture mai mardo ke muqable mai female ziadah corrupt hai, aur os ki sab se bari wajay yahi hai keh woh masturbation nahi kerti. agar woh kisi boy friend ki bajaye masturbation ke lia kare tu gunah kabeera se bach jaaye. read: Sex Corruption In Our Culture: More In Female Than Male
re: "phir mje ye batayein k ALLAH G NE RAMAZAN ka month q rkha hamarey lye,,ta k hum practice kar sakein,,bhooka rehney ki,,apney nafas ko har tareeqey se qaboo mein rkhney ki etc,,,,"
ramzan mai marital sex per koi pabandi nahi, lehaza aap ka yeh example yaha per fit hota nazar nahi aata. aur phir ramzan tu sirf aik mahina ke liye hota hai, poore 12 mahina ke liye nahi. ramzan ke aik mahina bhooka rehne ka practice se log kon sa 12 mahina bhooke rahte hai. Allah taala jaanta hai keh inssan khaana ke beghair rah sakta hai lekin sex ke beghair nahi. isi liye Allah ne Ramzan ke mahina mai sex per pabandi nahi lagayee hai. aap shoq se ramzan ke mahina mai apni bivi se mubasrat ker sakte hai, balkeh kerni bhi chahiye takeh ibadat ke waqt sex tension na ho.
re: "Islye i think we should control. aur is baat pe mutafiq rahein k ALLAH G NE ye jo nazaam banaya hai na EHTILAAM KA is se hi humein sex frustration se relieve miley ga."
ehtelam insaan ke control mai nahi, ehtelam aap ki marzi se nahi hota, aisa nahi hota keh aap ko sex frustration aur tension ho raha ho aur aap os se bachne ke liye so jaaye aur aap ko ehtelam ho jaaye. lehaza sex tension ko door kerne ke liye ehtelam ka intezar nahi kia jaa sakta.
re: "agar masturbation na krney ka ni kaha gaya tu mje ye batayein k phir ALLAH G NE Ehtilam ka nazaam q rakha"
agar Allah taala ehtelam se hi sex tension relive kerna chahta tu phir shaadi ki kia zaroorat hai. log shaadi na kare aur ehtelam ke zaria sex tension relieve ker lia kare.
mai ne kaha na keh aap log masturbation ke liye aik makhsoos believe rakhte hai, aur os believe ko sabit kerne ke liye zabardasti saboot talash ker rahe hai. believe na tu change hoti hai, aur na hi scientifically proof ki jaa sakti hai. |
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| Posted on:10th Aug 2009, 4:46am |
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bewaqoof...re Yahan tak baat thek thei maine post send ke apne apna argument ya rai dai dei…ab ap mery reply par comment kartey han…. Sorbey ke shorbey ka shorba bana rahey hain ap.
"aap aik medical student hai, lehaza aap se tawaqqo ki jaati hai keh aap apni baat ko proof kerne ke liye medical reference se baat kare gi, lekin abta aap ne medical references se baat nahi ki hai"
re:I have clearly mentioned the medical hazardz of regular masturbator and there is no defined minimum level kunke log tu aik dafa per day masturbate kar ke bhi premature ejaculation,non erect penis etc jaise problem mai a jate hain
"Islamic point se bhi agar disagree kerti hai tu phir proper Hadeth aur Quranic reference de, zabardasti meaning na nikale. waise bhi Islimic reference se baat kerne ka haq sirf Ulma ko hai jo keh Arabic likh perh aur samajh sakte hai, aur onho ne deen ka mukammal course kia hua hai"
re:Maine Quran and Hadees ka he refrence diya he… Fiqah ke bhi 4imam mai se 2imam masturbation ko haram kehtey han aur yehe hadees and Qurani ayat quote karte han..
"aqeeda mai log pehle maante hai phir saboot talash kerte hai, isi tarah aap ne bhi kisi saboot ke beghair masturbaito ke baare mai sirf maan liye, aur ab os aqeeda ke favor mai saboot talash kerne ki nakam koshish ke rahi hai. aqeeda wale log kabhi bhi qail nahi hote, kia aap kisi deobandi, barelve, shia ko os ke aqeeda ke khilaf qail ker sakti hai, isi tarah aap ko bhi masturbation aqeeda ke khilaf qail nahi kia jaa sakta. kio keh aap ne pehle aqeed ikhtiar kia hai aur phir baad mai saboot talash ker rahi hai"
re:Maine ISLAMIC and MEDICAL sabot deye han …. I have no aqeeda of masturbation…… these r facts…
I came to know abt masturbation first time in 4thyr medical n aqeeda koi iss leye nai bana kunke kisse ne ye nai kaha ye right ha ya wrong ha I studied and researched Islamic and Medical points do go against it..
I am very much neutral … in my post just facts…
"aap aik medical student hone ke bawajood dunia bhar ke medical reference ko tasleem nahi ker rahi hai tu phir aap ko kaise qail kia jaa sakta hai. medical student ko tu medical reference se hi qail kia jaa sakta hai. lekin aap ne abhi se farz ker lia hai keh medical reference ghalat bhi ho sakta hai( yani yaha per aap sirf aur sirf belief ki bunyad per baat ker rahi hai). phir tu aap medical college se apna name katwa le, "
re:Medicine says alcohol is very beneficial but hazards bhe han…..same is with masturbation medicine he iske hazard batatei ha I have written in post
Bewaqoof…………….. ur REQUESTED humbly not to comment on my profeesion choice….its not related to post.
Belief is how or from which angle u look to one matter…..
U see glass half empty……………….i see glass half filled….
This is how I see that masturbation is wrong…..Allah is the Creator of human body….He created nightfall as a release of sex tension before marriage and that's enough if we don't indulge in porn.sex thinking before marriage keep our NIGAHAN neeche and Guard our private parts….
Ap bahas khatam kar dain.let the readers read and make their own opinion…..khud lazati is filth for sure…..sex with oneself cant be right…. |
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| Posted on:10th Aug 2009, 4:47am |
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sazgham thanks |
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myrizvi |
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| Posted on:10th Aug 2009, 5:03am |
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golden words shud be repeated (quote)"aqeeda mai log pehle maante hai phir saboot talash kerte hai,
isi tarah aap ne bhi kisi saboot ke beghair masturbaito ke baare mai sirf maan liye, aur ab os aqeeda ke favor mai saboot talash kerne ki nakam koshish ke rahi hai. (unquote)
wow kia khoob kahaa waterr sister ap nay ... jazak Allah khairaaN |
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Bewaqoof |
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| Posted on:10th Aug 2009, 5:10am |
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concept aur aqeeda mai farq hota hai. re: "isi tarah aap ne bhi kisi saboot ke beghair masturbaito ke baare mai sirf maan liye, aur ab os aqeeda ke favor mai saboot talash kerne ki nakam koshish ke rahi hai."
masturbation ke baare mai mera koi aqeeda nahi, pehle deewaro per ishtehar read ker ke mai yahi samajhta tha keh masturbation ke nuqsanat hai, lekin jab mujhe yeh maloom hua keh dunia bhar ke doctors ke mutabiq masturbation ka koi nuqsan nahi tu phir mai ab yahi samajhta hoo. agar baad mai doctor hazrat kisi new research ke mutabiq apni statment tabdeel kare tu mai bhi osi staement ke mutabiq apna concept change ker looga. scietific proof se concept change hota hai aqeeda nahi, lehaza masturbation ke oopar mera koi aqeeda nahi, balkeh concept hai jo ke dalail se change ho sakta hai. |
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Waterr |
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| Posted on:10th Aug 2009, 5:11am |
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Mardana kamzori Aik aur cheez bata doun mai ap log jo readery hain...70percent of masturbatorz especialy young land up in MARDANA KAMZORI n they go to hakeem whch mostly give aphrodiasic metals to them heavy metals,... Now how i know ? These people landup as renal failure patients in govt hospital due to thz heavy metals .. N when we dig up hstory tht for whch mattr they usd hakeem medcne its mardana kamzori whch was nt there until i startd mastr.,is patnts hstory... |
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myrizvi |
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| Posted on:10th Aug 2009, 5:18am |
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bilkul sahi pahlay 'mardana kamzori' k ilaaj pay neem hakeemouN ka qabzah thaa... shahar bha k dar o deewaar ads say haray hotay thay ... ab log iss k ilaaj k liyeh doc hazraat k pass bhi janay lagay haiN...... mujhay to lagtaa hai k doc ki aik makhsoos groups nay aisay mareezoun ko apni kamaayee ka zariyah samajh kar masterbation ka propagandah start kia howaa hai ... bilkhasoos deen say door doc hazraat nay....... log zeyadah say zeyadah khud luzzati main mobtalaa houn, zeyadah say zeyadah mardana kamzori maiN mobtala houn aur onki zeyadah say zeyadah kamaayee ho....... mera aik doc dost kahta hai k oski zeyadah tar kamaaye aisay hi 'mardanah kamzori' k haamil mareezouN say hoti hai.... |
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Waterr |
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| Posted on:10th Aug 2009, 5:20am |
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Myrizvi..thanks U r so encouraging |
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| Posted on:10th Aug 2009, 4:19pm |
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buhat acchey watter kia baat hai kamal kardia ap nay. |
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Waterr |
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| Posted on:11th Aug 2009, 3:28am |
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...thanks I am thankful to all thoze who read my post..whethr thy agreed wth my post or not....
..... N xtrmly thankful to an unknwn person who has editd the last reply kunke tht ws encouragng bt i didnt knw how to respnd to such words.. |
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Bewaqoof |
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| Posted on:11th Aug 2009, 1:06pm |
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re: masturbation and mardana kamzori re "Aik aur cheez bata doun mai ap log jo readery hain...70percent of masturbatorz especialy young land up in MARDANA KAMZORI ............its mardana kamzori whch was nt there until i startd mastr.,is patnts hstory... "
yeh tu mareez ka khayal hai keh woh masturbation ki wajah se mardana kamzori ka shikar ho gaya hai, aur iss qisim ke waham mai woh hakeemo ka deewari ishtahar read ker ke mubtala hota hai. lekin kia aaj tak kisi doctor ne kaha keh masturbation se koi mardana kamzori ka mareez banta hai, never koi bhi doctor aisa nahi kehta ...........
waterr ji agar aap medical science aur doctor se agree nahi kerti aur hakeemo ke deewari ishtehar se mutassir ho ker aap bhi samajhti hai keh masturbation se mardana kamzori ho jaata hai tu phir aap medical college se naam katwa ker kisi hakeemi college mai dakhla le le. waise haqeeqat yeh hai keh iss qisim ki baatai koi mustanad hakeem bhi nahi kerta balke atai doctor (jaali doctor) kerte hai, lehaza mustanad hakeemi college ki bajaye kisi atayee docto ki shaagirdi ikhtiar ker le.
yeh baat aik haqeeqat hai keh deewari ishtehar read ker ke hamare mulk ke nojawan waham mai mubtala ho jaate hai, aur medical science (psychiatrist) os ke waham ka ilaj kerte hai, agar aap bhi waham mai mubtala ho chuki hai tu behtar hai keh aap bhi kisi psychiatrist se consult ker ke apne waham ka ilaj karai. |
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| Posted on:11th Aug 2009, 1:38pm |
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re "medical science aur doctor se agree nahi kerti aur hakeemo ke deewari ishtehar se mutassir ho ker aap bhi samajhti hai keh masturbation se mardana kamzori ho jaata hai tu phir aap medical college se naam katwa ker kisi hakeemi college mai dakhla le le. waise haqeeqat yeh hai keh iss qisim ki baatai koi mustanad hakeem bhi nahi kerta balke atai doctor (jaali doctor) kerte hai, lehaza mustanad hakeemi college ki bajaye kisi atayee docto ki shaagirdi ikhtiar ker le.""
re:apko maine kaha tha key ap merey choice of profession par na comment karain....apko meri iss post se zada merey medical student honey par itraaz he....lagta tu aisa he ha apke replies se....mai na hakeem logo se mutasir hon na he unko bura samjhte hon magar ye haqeeqat he ke bohat se haqeem mardana kamzore door karne k leye heavy metals daitey han jo galat baat he...hekmat aik ilm ha jaise homeopathy bhi so inkaar tu nai he unke ilm se...
baqe ye baat ke mai college se naam katwa lon ap 2nd tym keh rai han why not stick to the post....ap zati baatain karney lag gaey han
"agar aap bhi waham mai mubtala ho chuki hai tu behtar hai keh aap bhi kisi psychiatrist se consult ker ke apne waham ka ilaj karai."
re:kabhe ap mujko delusion ka shakar kehte han kabhi aqeedey ka ab ap mujko waham ka keh rehe han.....seriously apke last two lines se mujko ye samaj nai aye why u want to send me to a psychatrist...........
ap kehte han body ka beshtar nizam he autonomic system par he mai apne theories na nikalon etc.... tu let me tell u k autonomic system he sab se zada sensitive hota he to even a little bit upset aur yehe masturbation mai hota he excess stimulation and activity of parasympathetic component lead to its drainage and activate sympathetic system via neurotransmitters n this is a medical fact no doctor will deny for regular masturbatorz....
ye baat keh masturbator waham ka shikar hotey hank wo apne health tabah kar rey han tu issey leye hotey han kunke unko gilt hota he wo aik filthy kam kar rai han ....
mujhe reply kartey waqat ap zatiyat par na baat kya karain...thanks |
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re: masturbation and alopathic theory re: "apko meri iss post se zada merey medical student honey par itraaz he...."
ji haa agar aap medical student hai tu phir aap yaha per alopathic medical theory ke against kuch na likhe, warna log confuse ho jaaye ge, woh aap ki fazool baato ko medical theory samajh ker yaqeen ker le ge. non-medical person medical theory ke khilaf likhta hai tu ose maaf kia jaa sakta hai, lekin koi medical student khilaf likhe tu ose maaf nahi kia jaa sakta, kio keh ose se logo ke gumrah hone ke chances ziadah ho jaate hai.
re: "hekmat aik ilm ha jaise homeopathy bhi so inkaar tu nai he unke ilm se..."
mai na tu hakeem se inkar ker raha hoo aur na hi homoeopath se, lekin sirf aur sirf yeh arz ker raha hoo keh on ki theory alopathic medical science se mukhtalif hoti hai, lehaza yaha per on ki theory allow nahi hai. yeh forum ki policy hai keh yaha per homeo, harbal aur hakeem theory especially atai doctor (jaali hakeem, doctors) theory ko strictly allow na kia jaaye.
re: "seriously apke last two lines se mujko ye samaj nai aye why u want to send me to a psychatrist..........."
ji ha mai yahi chahta hoo keh aap masturbation per apni deewari hakeemo wali theory bian kerne se qabal kisi psychiatrist se personally discuss ker le, aur masturbation ke baare mai apna concept clear ker le.
re: " ap kehte han body ka beshtar nizam he autonomic system .....tu let me tell u k autonomic system he sab se zada sensitive hota he to even a little bit upset aur yehe masturbation ........medical fact no doctor will deny for regular masturbatorz...."
mohtarma aap se yahi request hai keh aap pehle apne kisi teacher especially kisi psychiatrist se iss topic per discuss ker le phir yaha per apni zaati theory bian kare. aap bila wajah masturbation ke baare mai aisi man gharat baatai bian ker rahi hai jo keh kisi bhi medical text book mai likha hua nahi hai.
re: " mujhe reply kartey waqat ap zatiyat par na baat kya karain...thanks"
mujhe aap ki zaat per etraz nahi balkeh lafz medical student per etraz hai. aap apni profile edit ker ke medical student ka lafz nikal de, phir mai aap ko medical student hone ka taana nahi dooga. ya tu aap lafz medical studen istemal na kare ya phir alopathic medical theory ke against likhna band kare. |
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re aj apko lafz medical student par aitraaz ha kal apko mery doctor honey par hoda... baat tu zaat ke ha.... aur ye meri zaati theory nai ha ..... its how a regular masturbatorz system is upset .....
ap sirf bahas baraey bahas kar raey han ab... |
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| Posted on:11th Aug 2009, 2:35pm |
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re: masturbation mera khayal hai keh ab aap bhi masturbation ki jaan chore aur doosre topic per reply kare. aap bhi apna qeemti waqt bahas baraye bahas mai zaye ker rahi hai. |
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| Posted on:11th Aug 2009, 10:16pm |
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Waterr you are great asset to this forum... i really appreciat your time you are giving to this forum... now come to this behas.. well you are so smart i thought you would know by now... its just wast of time to argu with bewaqoof.... |
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