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where lies the problem? (Seduction of young girls in our society and consequent heart break)

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bushra2012 Group: Members  Joined: 15th Oct, 2013  Topic: 2  Post: 492  Age:  20  
Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 2:01pm
 

@abdullah00

bushra2012 ne zindagi ka kafi arsa saudia mein guzara hai. Aapko to phir ye bhi nahen pata hoga aurtein kitni aghwa hoti hein? Pakistan se bura haal hai. Kitne he overseas Pakistani wapas aagay - ke ham yahan apni aurton ki hifaazat nahen kar saktay. Local taxi driver ya police walay aapki aurton ko lekar khat se bhaag jaenge. Ya ham daftar gay aur wapsi par biwi ghar pe na mili. Phir laash bhi nahen milegi. Loag bari ehtiyat kartay hein. Jis larki ki shaadi saudia mein kam karnay walay se hoti hai - uski sahelion mein maatam bichh jata hai - ke ainda dekhnay ko mile ya na mile - jiske hath paon ziada khoobsoorat hon (kyunke shakal to wahan nazar nahen aati, abaya ka qanoon hai) utna ziada kohraam hota hai. Saudia sirf hajj umra karnay jana chahye. Baqi wahan family ke saath survive karna aasan nahen.

Aapko wahan par londay-bazi ki situation bhi nahen pata hogi. Bangali taxi driver to bohot lut-tay hein (darhi choti hoti hai na - motawwa ko ziada khatra nahen hai). Locals unki gari cheen kar bhaga detay hein phir weeran jagah par rape hota hai unka. Ap bhi wahan ehtyat se raha karein. Aapka rape hotay dair nahen lagegi (mazaq nahen uraya sanjeeda mashwara dya hai - warna agar nuqsaan kar ke he samajh ayga to aapki marzi).

Dunya ka akhlaaq-baakhta tareen maashra hai wo. Larkay apni biwion ko apne baap ke saath ghar pe akela nahen chortay. Kehtay hein - baba harami kabeer. Unko pata hai, peechay unka baap he bahu pe charh doray ga. Saudi families ke saath taluq rakhtay (agar wo kisi ko ghaas dal dein - ziada loag avoid he kartay hein unki bad-tameezi ki wajah se). Ye barelvi aqaid ki wajah se nahen kaha.

Doosri baat ye ke, aapne kaha, waheen suna do. Aajkal bara masla hai. Ghar ke mard bhi kehtay hein - khamosh ho jao to acha hai. Warna Shahzaib murder case wala haal hoga. Shahzaib ki behen ko bhi kisi ne chairkhani ki thee, jiske baad usne mana kia aur khatakhat murder ho gya. Islye, larki ko bhi pata nahen hai, zara si awaz nikali - aur uska baap bhai aglay din qabar mein. Jo awaaz kasta hai, wo akela nahen hota.

Yahaan aik larki pe awaaz lagai larkay ne, V8 ki khirki utaar kar. Larki ne khirki band karne se pehlay thappar jar dya. Phir kya thaa, aagay peechay 4, 4 hilux aagay peechay lagee theen. 4, 4 guard bethay thay har kisi par. Unhon ne aakar larki ko (apni maan ke saath thee) itna maara ke lahoo-lahaan hogai, Kapre phat gay. Zakhmon mein bhi keechar bhar gai. Larki ki maan ko side mein kardya aur us se kaha ke tum rastay mein ain to tumhara is se bura hashar hoga. Islye, pii lena he behtar hai. Iske baad, larki ko hilux ke dalay mein daal kar thaanay le gay. Ghair mardon ne danda-doli kar ke. Is par iqdaam-e-qatal ka muqadma bana kar hawalaat bhej dia. Ab jail chali gai hai police remand poora kar ke. Na adaalat mein agli peshi hoti hai na rehai. Larki ke ghar walay bari party hein (jabhi to uski itni himmat hui ke bulletproof cruiser walay ko thappar maar dia). Magar, FIR katwanay walay us se bari party hein. Thaanay walay baray kameenay hotay hein. Larki ke saath kia kia nahen hua hoga.

Ab socho, zara sa awaaza bardasht karna behtar hai, ya yeh behtar hai?


Aik aur baat bataon: Skin tight dress ya see-through etc. teasing karnay wala dress ya bold type ka, baray ghar ki aurat pehnti hai. Kyunke usko pata hota hai - ke ham powerful loag hein - islye kisi ki himmat nahen hai ke hamko chairay. Aap dekh lein, kaamwali kabhi aisay kapray pehnay nazar nahen aygi. Baray industrialist etc. ki biwi aisay kapron mein nazar ajaygi. Mazay ki baat ye hai kaamwali ko har tarah ka khatra hai. Aur baray ghar ki aurat nangi bhi phiray to koi khatra nahen balke wo khud doosron ke lye khatra hai. Kyunke ye power ki game hai. Sexual pleasure ki nahen. Jiski power ziada hai - jo chahay karta/karti phiray.

Isi tarah, larkion ki azadi ki baat kartay hein aap. Jin gharon mein larkion pe sab se ziada pabandian hoti hein, unhi gharon ki larkian sab se ziada ye sab karti phirti hein. Larkon par pabandi kyun nahen laga detay aap. Jitna ziada larkon ko azadi deinge, utna ziada wo 'bachi set' kareinge.

@ghalib1505

Iska burqa se taluq nahen hai. Aapne gaon daihat mein dekha? Aurtein ghar se nikalti hi nahen. Aur jab nikalti hein to normal saudi abaya ya irani/iraqi style abaya nahen hota. Afghani abaya hota shuttle cock wala. Poora tent hota hai. Aankhein tak nazar anhen aateen. Mukhtaraan mai ka kya case tha? Mukhtaraan mai area ke bachon ko quraan parhati thee. Mohallay ke ghundon ne pehlay uske bhai ka rape kia (aik to mardon ke haqooq he nahen hain idhar - bachay becharay se to koi pooch he nahen raha ke uski kya haalat hui jab khulay aasman ke neechay 5 mardon ne anal gang rape kia uska), phir ghar ja kar ilzaam lagaya ke is larkay ne hamari family ki larki ko warghala kar sex kia hai, islye ham iski behen ke saath sex karainge. Phir 4 to kia 4000 gawahon ke saamne society-sanctioned gang-rape hua. To bhai burqa anti-rape shield mechanism nahen hai. Burqa wali ka bhi rape hota hai (aur rape to extreme baat hai 'normal' sexual harrasment maslan koi hath maar ke chala gya ye sab to common hai) aur baghair burqa wali ka bhi. Iska taluq is baat se hai ke karnay walay ko kab moqa mil raha hai.

@Zubii

Islami sazain yahan is waqt to nahen di ja sakteen. Jahan 500 rupees mein gawah biktay hon wahan nahen di ja sakteen. Sangsaar ki saza aap loag samajhtay hein koi aasan si cheez hoti hai. Jisko mile uska to haal hota hai isko dekhna aik aam phansi ya bakra zibah hotay dekhnay se kaheen ziada hoslay ka kaam hai. Iran mein detay hein uski videos net par serach karein (kamzor dil, blood pressure ke mareez aur bachay na dekhein). Pathar maar maar kar, jab tak khopri kelay ke gooday ki tarah ke bhurtay mein tabdeel nahen ho jati - jab tak jaan naheen nikal jati - pathar maartay rehna hai. Iska maqsad ibrat hai. Takeh loag na karein. Lekin ye wahan ho sakta hai jahan insaaf ho. Wahan nahen jahan 5000 rupees rishwat dekar apne dushman par 13-D ka muqadma ban jay. Naam uska exit-control list main ajay aur wo saari zindagi jail mein saray. Jahan insaaf naam ki cheez na ho. Jahan adaalat, police, gawah, wakeel sab bikao maal ho, jahan logon ke morals na hon, wahan sharai saza jitni sakht saza nahen di ja sakti. Warna na-insaafi se kisi ka hath kato gay, kisi ko saza-e-moat do gay, kisi ko sang-saar karo ge, to unke rishtaydaar phat parein ge, masjidon mein, ibaadat-gahon mein, parliament ke andar - har jagah.
Zubii Group: Members  Joined: 01st Oct, 2013  Topic: 1  Post: 34  Age:  20  
Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 2:24pm
 

Bushra

Well said bushra jo facts and figures hain ap ny kafi tafseel se bayan kiye sach b hain. Im 1oo% sure with you..male n wealth dominant society.
ghalib1505 Group: Members  Joined: 15th May, 2012  Topic: 9  Post: 154  Age:  22  
Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 5:25pm
 

Bushra well said.apni hifazat apny hath Aytal kursi perh k nikalye.waqaii bht bura mahol hai.Allah Paak hamsabhi ki bahen  betiyo ki izzat ki hifazat kre aameen

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alone but happy Group: Members  Joined: 10th Dec, 2012  Topic: 8  Post: 654  Age:  21  
Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 6:01pm
 

Dua for all membrs.

ALLAH PAK ham sab ko naik hadayet de .or ham sb ki maaon behnoo bivion betion ki izzat ki hifazat karna or hamen seedha rasta dikhaye.ameeen sum ameen



myrizvi Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2008  Topic: 128  Post: 7599  Age:  54  
Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 11:40pm
 

saudia ki dushmani maiN ...

makhsoos aqliati masalak say wabistah afraad, islamic taleemaat say dil.bardaashtah (so called) secular mosalmaanouN aur onsay motasserah logouN ki aksariyaat ka yeh haal hai k onhaiN saudi arab boraaiyyoun ki aamj.gaah nazar aata hai. onhaiN dunyaa bhar ki boraiyyaN saudi arab main nazar aati haiN...aur amerika, euorope aur deger maader pedar azaad momaalik main onhain boraayee nazaar hi nahi aati k onka qiblah o kaabah yehi momaalik hotay haiN

yeh log daanistah yaa naa.danistah musilms (or muslim momaalik) maiN maujood blackship ko iss tarah project /highlight kartay haiN jaisay sari muslim community inhi boraiyyoun maiN mobtala hai. usa, uk samait deger maghribi mkomaalik main sir rape record cases ki tadaad etni hai k al.amaan o al.hafeez. lekin wahaah k yeh records onki files main to miltay haiN lekin woh issay media k zariyah ochaaltay nahi haiN. iskay baraks agar kisis muslim mulk maiN 2 chaar cases onkay /onkay local agents k hattahy lag jayaiN to poori dunyaa maiN osay mosh.tahar karkay muslim world ko badnaam karnay lagtay haiN

Allah ham mosalmaanoun ko aqlay saleem ataa karay aur kuffar k agenday par daanistah yaa naa.daanistah chalnay sya bachaa.ay. aameen summa aameen. yeh western world k observer bhi tasleem kartay haiN k saudia dunya ka woh waahid mulk hai jahaaN crime rate sab say kam hai. yahaaN choRiyaaN, rape, dakaiti, qatal nah honay k baraabar haiN agar oska mawaznah pakistan say bhi kia jaa.ay to... western momaalik say mawaznah kia to phir yehy nah honay k baraabar hain...wazah rahay k iran maiN sexual crime zina iss had tad tak hai k iss medium k thru wahaaN AIDS k mareezouN maiN khatarnaak izafah horaha hai, bharat ki tarah.

PS: maiN khud saudia maiN rahchuka houN...aur meri families k deger afraad bhi barsouN with family saudia main rahtay chalay aa.ay hain... ham nay aaj tak wahaan aisi batain nah dekheen nah soneeN, jinka tazkera ooper bayaan kia gaya hai... lekin aisaa bhi nahi hai k wahaan crime hotay hi nahi haiN... wahaan k qawaneen etnay sakht aur faur haiN k crime rate phal phool nahi saktay... wahaaN to shah faisal k qatil bhateejay tak ki gardan oraa di jati hai



blueink Group: Members  Joined: 17th Nov, 2013  Topic: 0  Post: 39  Age:  33  
Posted on:26th Dec 2013, 10:09pm
 

@Tehreem Az

We are having male dominant society. And this is Very Very unfortunate!! They are given free hands to do any thing they want. And there are NO laws to protect females from such abuses.

Aagar laws sakht hon, un par implementation ho. Tu koi bhe Mard kisi ghair Orat ko ghalat nazar se daikhney se pehali 1000 times soche ga.

Agar government, experiment kai tor par...kuch markets jahan auraton aur mardon ka rush ho...wahan security cameras laga dain. aur abuse krnai walon ko detect krain aur. aur in gandai logon ko pakar kar Chorahon par tamam public k saamney saza di jaey. Phir daikhain in crimes mei kaisai decrease aata hai. It's all about making laws and their strict implementation.

AAj agar kisi Pakistani minister ya Judge ki baiti ki ko koi rape karey (God forbid) ya kisi bhe kism ki ziyadti karey. ... tab daikhye ga kai hamrai governemnt is barey mein kitni sajeedigi se step uthati hai.

But 'Protection of Women outside there homes' has never been on agenda of any governement. And it's EXTREMELY SAD!! We can't do anything except regret. aap choron, badmashon, abusers ko khuli chutti dain gai tu ..wo tu faida uthain gai. balkai jinhon ne nhe bhe faida uthana hua, shaitan usko bhe uksaeey ga aik aa jao mazai lo...koi nhe hai pakarney wala aur pochnai wala. As they say " An open door tempts even a Saint!! "

Jin logon ne ooper zikar kiya kai aurton ko abaya pehnna chahye. Mei aap ko btati hon I personally tried to save myself. I carried abaya two times...n it was quite a big one. means physique nmayan nhe thi us mein but phir bhe touch kiya gaya. hamarai mashray mein DAMAGHI GANDGI....SEXUAL FRUSTRATION itni phail chuki hai..that even abayas can not help. :(

Aap log kiya baat krtai hain..hamari society tu murda aurton ko nhe bakhsh rhe ..unko qabar khood kar rape kr kai aa jatey hain ye sexually frustrated brains.
Ham log isqadar zehni tanzalli ka shikaar ho chukai hain kai Allah is quom ko safa hasti se mita bhe dai tu hairangi ki zaroorat nhe.

Baki rhe baat kiya krna chahye ye sb roknai kai liye??
Government ka tu pata nhe. but har shakhs apnai ghar mein reh kar individual koshishain zaroor kar sakta hai. For example aapkai bacha ya bachi jawan hua forun shadi kar dain. Islam ka bhe yehi hukam hai. aur jahan ham ne apni generation ko khuli chutti di hui hai har kisam kai ghair-akhlaqi harkton ko krnai ki. wahan ghar par unki itni akhlaqi tarbiyat zaroor ki jaey kai aik mard ko aurat ki azmat aur izzat ka idraak ho jae. Aur wo isko just aik sex symbol na samjhe.

Allah har bachi ki izzat aur asamt ko mehfooz rakhey. Ameen.
blueink Group: Members  Joined: 17th Nov, 2013  Topic: 0  Post: 39  Age:  33  
Posted on:26th Dec 2013, 10:39pm
 

How to shop safely! (for muslim women)

I just want to add one thing which is indirectly related to Tehreem's post. Mei ne ooper apna abaya ka experience share kiya hai. jo kai 10 saal pehlai hua. Later I never wanted to happen that not just to me but anyother vulnerable girl.

ye khwateen kai liya hai....k jab bhe bahir jaein Ayatul Qursi phonk kar jaein. aur 3rd Kalima recite krtai rahain. koi bhe aapko nuqsaan nhe pohencha sakta Inshallah. I do it myself. Allah Subhan Ta'la creates a saftey net around you...u go ..do your work n come back safely. So if girls want to avoid such things .They can do it n they should do it.

Aur zaroorat kai tehat he baahir jaen. Window shopping n visiting bazaars just to pass time avoid karein.
Activist Group: Members  Joined: 04th Feb, 2012  Topic: 2  Post: 85  Age:  23  
Posted on:26th Dec 2013, 11:36pm
 

my way

Thanx all for ur posts.

Jaha tk meri baat ha me to wahi kharay ho k bht bezati krti hu. Mene to ab ye e seekha ha. Jb mardo ko apni izzat ka ehsaas nai to aorat q dabay.


Hmara jism hmara hak ha koi or q touch kre. Agr kre to wahi maro usay
blueink Group: Members  Joined: 17th Nov, 2013  Topic: 0  Post: 39  Age:  33  
Posted on:26th Dec 2013, 11:44pm
 

@ Tehreem's way

Ohh your way is an EXCELLENT way. :D
Girls must react this way too!!! is se bhe aisai logon ki hosla shikni ho ge. apko koi touch kare give him a PERFECT SLAP on his face. Experienced it myself too.
But Shukar Alhamdolillah ab aisa koi incedent nhe hota.
flower grl Group: Members  Joined: 03rd Dec, 2013  Topic: 0  Post: 7  Age:  20  
Posted on:27th Dec 2013, 3:04am
 

to bushra and tehreem

i disagree with you k saudia me larki ya maa apny bachay k room me jaty darti hy me ye manti hoon k yaha b sab kaam hotay hain larkia milti hain sex k lia bt in k gharo ka mahol pak k mahol sy bht acha hy jab ek larkay ki shaadi hoti hy to wo apna ghr alag kar leta hy or wha apni bivi k sath alag rehta hy....iski wja ye nahi k uska chota bhai ya larkay ka baap uski bv per nazar rkhy huay hy wo islia k shaitaan waswasy dalny wala hy to kch b hoskta hy islia wo alehda hojaty hain...or waha qanoon bht strict hy k koi ghlt kaam krny sy pehly 10 baar sochta hy...

baki agree with tehreem k bazaar jao to larkay kahi na kahi hath laga dyty hy uski waja yehi hy k waqt per logo ki shaadi na hona or qanoon ki sakhti na hona...saudia me agr ap market jao to hr 2 sy 3 mint k baad police k jeep round per hoti hy or har koi darta hy ab jab pak jesy mulk mai qanoos ki sakhti ki jaye gi 2 3 logo ko beech chorahy per koray lagaye jaye gy ya sansaar kia jaye ga to kch tabdeeli ana shuru hogi wrna har maa behn ki izzat isi trha khrab hogi jesy ab ho rhi hy...is k lia hamari govt ko koi step leyna chahye..
Zubii Group: Members  Joined: 01st Oct, 2013  Topic: 1  Post: 34  Age:  20  
Posted on:27th Dec 2013, 3:26am
 

Blue ink n tehreem

Mai ap dono ki bat se agree karti hu k k jab b esa koi gair ikhlaqi waqya pesh honay par forun extreme react krna chaheye takay ese harkat krnay wala bot embarass aur humilate hojaye takay next tim wo ksi aur k sath esa na kary..our this attempt 'll save other grlz..
bushra2012 Group: Members  Joined: 15th Oct, 2013  Topic: 2  Post: 492  Age:  20  
Posted on:27th Dec 2013, 7:58am
 

@blueink, Zubii & flower grl

Kuch ajeeb mamla hai aaj kal. Aik to jo mard public mein touching etc. kartay hein wo itnay dheet ho chukay hotay hein ke unhein public humiliation ki parwa nahen hoti. Phir agar aap scene create karein to jo rush banta hai us mein kai aur loag aapka breast pakarne etc. ki koshish kartay hein. To is se mamla aur barhta hai. Aksar aisa bhi hota hai ke touching karnay wala ghayb aur koi dusra (shareef) aadmi phans jata hai.

Iske ilawa aisay mard thappar ke lye tayyar hotay hein. Bazu pakar kar kafi zoar se marour detay hein. Aur foran violent ho kar aapka kurta ya shalwaar pharnay ki koshish kartay hein. Jiske baad be-satri ka khadsha hai - aur phir saara rasta nangi he ghar jana par sakta hai. Kyunke ladies kapron ki silai kafi nazuk hoti hai - jeans ki tarah momi dhagay ki double silai nahen hoti.

Islye ye cheezen abhi to aapke haq mein gai hein. Lekin aainda zaruri nahen. Islye kuch aur soch kar rakhein.

Ab pata nahen konse utopia mein mojud hein. Har tarah ki laws mojud hein females ko protect karnay ke lye. Magar jahan 50 qatal rozana mulk ke sirf aik shehr mein ho jatay hon wahan kisi thanay kachehri ke paas time hai ke wo ye dekhay ke aapko kisi ne touching to nahen kardi? Video camera se kia hoga. Kia Karachi mein ashura bomb blast ke baad aag laganay qalon ki footage nahen hai? Kya raja bazar case mein fasaad karnay walon ki videon nahen hai? Kia kisi ko saza mil gai hai?

Rozana jitni target killing hoti hai is mein aik bhi aurat nahen sirf mard qatal hotay hein. Rozana mulk bhar mein jitnay bomb blast hotay hein in mein bhi mard he martay hein. Us waqt to aapko rona nahen aata ke mardon ki hifaazat ka yahan koi intizaam nahen. Kya aapke baap bhai nahen hein? Jis din apnay ghar mein laash aygi us din mehsus hoga?

Aur shadi se kia hoga? Loag shadi ki to aisay bataen kartay hein jesay shadi ke baad hansi-khushi zindagi guzaarna shuru ho jaygi? Kya shadi-shuda khawateen ko public mein laog touch nahen kartay? Kia unke mathay pe likha hota hai ke choonke wo shadi-shuda hein islye unko koi tang na karay?

Aur aapka kia khyal hai jin mardon ki shadi ho jati hai wo koi ghatya harkat nahen kartay? Aray jin mardon ki shadi ho jati hai wo experience ke baad aur bold ho jatay hein. Aap dekh lein is tarah ki harkaton mein ziada tar middle-aged loag milein ge.
Zubii Group: Members  Joined: 01st Oct, 2013  Topic: 1  Post: 34  Age:  20  
Posted on:27th Dec 2013, 8:18am
 

Bushra

Yes yes u throw light on tragic aspect of nature of such people waki mai kch mard hazrat ese hoty hn to orto ki laan taan sun kr galiyon ko b enjoy krty hn ese nafisyati mareez logo ko gear up kr k race krty hn or khd idr odr hojaty hn r orto ki sarzinish aur galiyan sun'na bais-e-fakhar mehsoor karty hn..ese logo ki shaksiyat nafsiyati hoti ha..
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Posted on:27th Dec 2013, 8:55am
 

@Zubii

Ye wala nafsiyati-pana bar-e-sagheer indo-pak ke culture mein shamail hai. Culture se murad saqaafat yaani roz marra zindagi se hat kar adab, shair-o-shairri, afsana-nigari, drama-naveesi yahan tak ke agar intercity bus mein safar karo to jis tarah forced seduction ke manazir walay drama chal rahay hotay hein wo. Shair mulahiza kijye:

gaalian kha kar bhi raqeeb be-maza na hua

aur is tarah ke deegar bhi hein, jin mein yak-tarfah mohabbat ke tazkiray aur mehboob ki janib unwanted attention denay ke nateejay mein dhutkaray janay ka tazkira hai.

Beherhal saudia ki loag tareefein kartay rahein magar ye baat apni jagaha hai ke sweden, germany, canada, UK, UAE, pakistan aur saudia mein zindagi guzaarnay ke doraan mujhe khud sab se ziada adam-tahaffuz ka shikaar saudia mein he rehna para. Ghar se nikaltay huay ya ghar par akelay rehtay huay bhi saudia mein he dar laga kafir mulkon mein nahen. Kyunke public ki nazar ke samne shurta ki gari mein aurat aghwa hotay saudia mein he dekhi. Isi tarah bengali taxi driver ke kapray phaar kar nanga kartay bhi saudia mein he dekha. (Note: In sab mulkon mein kisi kachchi abaadi mein nahen balke munasib mohallon mein rehaish aur ye waqeaat bhi inhi ilaqon mein dekhay, jable kafir mulkon mein ye waqeaat bohot hein magar kachchi abadion mein. Isi tarah saudia mein har akhbaar aur TV har tarah ki news par government ka shadeed tareen control hai. Yahan tak ke jumay ke khutbay mein agar khateeb government ke dye huay khutbay se aik lafz bhi aagay peechay karay to usi waqt police walay utha kar thanay mein band kar detay hein. Aur khutba ya juma ki namaz mukammal karnay ki mohlat bhi nahen detay.

Wese myrizvi, aik baat bataon, barelvi saudia ko like naheen kartay. Isi lye barelvi saudia nahen, oman jatay hein. Kyunke omani shia hein jo ke aqaid ke lihaz se mazaaron ki taraf mohabbat barelvion se mumasil rakhtay hein, jabke wahabi to har qabar par bulldozer chrha detay hein. Aur shia ko bhi saudia se yehi shikayat hai ke ji aapne ahl-e-bait ki qabron par se mazaar khatam kar dye. Choonke barelvi saudia jaatay he nahen, islye saudia ke baray mein unki malumaat apnay tajurba par nahen, suni sunai par mushtamil hoti hai - jabke bushra2012 ne apnay tajurba se baat ki hai. Ab baat ziada he firqa-wariat ki taraf ja rahi hai, aur wese bhi topic se iska taluq nahen.

Wese OP ka topic saudia mein crime ya pakistan mein bazaaron mein sexual harrasment nahen tha, girlfriend/boyfriend chakkar aur larkion ki virginity ka zaya ho jana tha. Jis topic ki taraf baat chali gai hai wo pehlay bhi discuss hua hai: Kya males aap logon ko bhi tang kartay hein (shayd BismaFA ne shuru kia thaa).
blueink Group: Members  Joined: 17th Nov, 2013  Topic: 0  Post: 39  Age:  33  
Posted on:27th Dec 2013, 7:25pm
 

why did I support Tehreem's way

Not gonna waste my time for ' tanqeed braey tanqeed ' on reaction to my comment above.

NOTE: Abusers are weak individuals..and weakest when they do a thing in a crowded place. Hit them hard. They can't react especially in public place.

All these men jo aisi jaghon bazaron mein phirtey hain sirf khwateen ko touch krnai k liye. bunyadi tor par BUZDIL hotey hain. Instant thappar kai reaction mein aasa paas ki khwateen bhe laan taan krti hain. aur aisai osaan khata hotey hain kai ainda zindagi mei wo bnda kisi k sath aisi harkat krtai hoe koi 1000 times sochai ga zarur. Secondly, uska tamasha daikh kar bakiyon ko bhe kaafi naseehat ho jati hai.

Isliye darney ki zaroorat nhe. bazaar jan hai tu...koshish karen akailay na jaen. baap, bhai, behn, maan ya even kisi bachai ko he sath le lain. aur kuch aisa waisa ho tu instant reaction dain. kuch bhe nhe hota. sb aapko support karen gai. (Allah na karey aisa waqt aaey bachiyon par).

West mein tu baqaida girl ki training hoti hai, they are told methods to deal with abusers. And it touched my heart I wish Pakistan mei bhe kuch aisai he courses start hon national level pai. hamarai han khwateen izzat bachaney kai chakkar mein khamosh reh kr na sirf apnai sath ziyadti krti hain but har us larki/khatoon k sath ziyadti krti hain,jisko wo mard deeda dalairi se touch krta hai. cohz he knows k koi reaction nhe aaey ga.

I have so many examples jis mei aisai mardon ko public mei he reaction do tu saans ruk jati hai unki. cohz wo buzdil hotey hain. aur reaction expect bhe nhe kr rahey hotey.

I personally think aisai mardon ko dheel bhe auraton ki khamoshi ne he dai rakhi hai. ( No Offence!)

Activist Group: Members  Joined: 04th Feb, 2012  Topic: 2  Post: 85  Age:  23  
Posted on:27th Dec 2013, 11:47pm
 

right

Jo admi aorat ko bazaaar me chertay ha ya pyar k naam pe dhoka dete ha unhe pta hta h k aorat kamzoor ha.

Me isay hath lga du peechay se. Ya saamnay se jate hwe breast pakar lu kuch nai kh paye gi. Aisa e hai na? Kya kahay gi k tm ne meri breast pakri. Tmhe sharam nai ati? Ghr me maa behan nai ha? Ofcourse aose nai kh skti.

Q k hm jis society me rhtw ha waha ye ghalat smjha jata ha.

Dosri trf agr aik admi ik aorat ya grl ko pyar k naam pe dhoka deta ha. Sex kr k chor deta ha. Kya kre gi larki? Ghr btaye gi k glan larkay ne mere sath sex kia mjy pyar me dhoka dia? Ya larkay k ghr walo ko btaye gi k ap ne apne betay ki aise tarbiyat ki ha k jawan larki se pyar kro or sex kr k chor do? Kuch to sikhatay k piyar nibhana.

Ofcourse not. To jb hmare maashray ka mard ye janta ha na to wo aorat ki khul k tazleel krta ha. Is surat me larki ko khud badla lena chahye q k wo kisi ko nai bta skti. Bazar me agt kisi ne chera peechay mur k khud thappar maray.

Dunya ghalat sochy gi aorat k baray me? To wo dunya tb kaha hti ha kb us aorat ko chera ja rha hta ha? To why she should care about the world?


Zubii Group: Members  Joined: 01st Oct, 2013  Topic: 1  Post: 34  Age:  20  
Posted on:28th Dec 2013, 2:07am
 

One thing more

Jo b log ese ghtiya fayl kartay hn wo bhool jaty hain k unho ny marna b hai aur Allah ko mu b dikhana ha makafat-e-amal b koi chezz hai unky kiye saza dunya mai b ml sakti ha aur khuda k samny b pooch hogi k kya kia tm ny bint-e-hawa k sath wahan na powe kam aye ge na society na rank na kaghaz k tukray jinay hm paisay khty hn..:>
myrizvi Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2008  Topic: 128  Post: 7599  Age:  54  
Posted on:28th Dec 2013, 4:09am
 

poet kahta hai

kunad ham jins, baa.ham jins parwaaz
kabootar baa.kabootar, baaz bah baaz

yaani kabootar ko kabootarouN k saath aur baaz ko baaz k saath hi parwaaz karnay maiN security feel hoti hai. yehi haal insaan k imaan o amal levels ka hai. jaisay sharabi, zaani aur howaari ko aisay hi logouN (society) ki sohbat maiN security feel hotay haiN jabkay namaazi, parhaiz.gaar aur saum o salaat k pabandafraad ko apnay hi jaisay logouN (society) ki sohbaat main aaraam aur security ka ehsaas hota hai. jo jaisay ander obahaar sya ho, ossay waisay hi environment maiN comfort ka ehsaas hota hai... kiyouNkay yeh donoun group aik doosray say motazaad characters k hamail hotay haiN. iska yeh matlab nahi k baaz.group / kabootar group k log within group aik doosray ko nuqsan nahi pahonchatay... lekin aisaa kam kam hota hai. aik sachay mosalmaan ko daarul kufr k moqaablay maiN daarul islam/ darul muslemeen hi maiN chain o raahat milta hai jabkay kuffar /monaafeqeen agar harmain shareefaiN pahonch bhi jayaiN...jaisay qaadyaani /ahmadi group apni shanakht chpaakar wahaaN pahonch jaatay haiN ... to bhi woh wahaaN bechaini hi feel kartay haiN woh r apnay makhsoos mazmoom azaaim k baaes woh apna aap ko wahaaN un.easy /unsecured hi feel kartay haiN aur jawaaz k taur par wahaaN ki lowest crime rate ko highlight karnay lagtay haiN

wallaho aalam bissawab



alifarhan Group: Members  Joined: 28th Dec, 2013  Topic: 2  Post: 25  Age:  21  
Posted on:28th Dec 2013, 10:04am
 

i want to say some thing

mainy ye baat pahly b aik post main likhi hy
ager larki chaye tu ye sab hota hy
larka kya larki k ghar main ja k ye sab krta hy ager wo jata hy or krta hy tu kis ny bulya or kis ny ijazat di
chalo mana ye b larko ka kasoor hy
aap ye btaye koi larka larki ko bulaye tu or larki aa jaye mujhy koi wajah batye ga wo larki q aye
ye sab krti hy bad main aa k kahti i hate males
why always males no wrong got it
main larko ko defend kr rha hn
main aik seedhi baat kr rha hn jo hamri problem hy
main ye sab us waqt tak nahi kr sakta jab tak mery sath koi larki na ho
larkio main ALLAH ny demagh deya hy usko use kry ye larkia apny demagh sy kaam ly
or rhi baat ye 5 finger aik jaise nahi hoti hy
or ye kaha gaya hy pak ortain pak mard k liye paak mard pak ortoon k liye
or ager ye sab ho rha hy is k zimadar wo log hy jinho ny in ki ijazat di
or is ko rokny ka tareeka ye hy k pakistan k boys ko roozgar milay wo apny kaam main b z ho or girls ko yun bilawaja bahir jany ki ijazat na di jaye
or mobile phone k istmaal ko sahe kia jaye
or behayae ko roka jaye jo ham phaila rhy hy
thank you

yar plz un k pass demagh hy larkio btao demagh use kry apna



alifarhan Group: Members  Joined: 28th Dec, 2013  Topic: 2  Post: 25  Age:  21  
Posted on:28th Dec 2013, 10:04am
 

i want to say some thing

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