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Activist
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Group: Members Joined: 04th Feb, 2012 Topic: 2 Post: 85 Age:
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| Posted on:23rd Dec 2013, 11:47pm |
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 where lies the problem? (Seduction of young girls in our society and consequent heart break)
Asalam o alaikum to all. I read a thread jis ki wja se mene ye new thread start ki. Aksar dekha jata ha k larkay larkiyo se pyar k naaam pe sex krte h ya foreplay. Or baad me ghayeb ho jate hai. Forum pe kai girls aati ha jo baad me pochti ha k ab wo shaadi k baad husband ko kya mun dikhaye gi. Kbhi aisa koi larka nai aata jo khta ho k mene sex kr li lover se ab me kya karu. Us k ilwa agr kisi married woman ki married life me koi problem ho or wo yaha pe solution mangain to kuch aadmi un se pochte ha k ap virgin ha? Ap ka figure kya ha? Ap kisi ko phasa lo. Even kuch to contact details dete ha. Ye aik forum ki baat nahi ha pori society ka ye e haal ha. Kiisi larkay ka cell ph e pakar le. Us me aise wahiyaaaat msg hogy k parh k bnda paani paani hi jae. Bazaaar chale jao koi na koi haath lga deta ha. I want to ask where lies the problem? Kya masla ha hmari society me k aise hta ha. Or aise kya points hain jin ki wja se larkay aise krte hai? P.s. Meray views se koi ye assume na kre k mene sb mardo ko aisa kaha ha. Meri muraad un se ha jo aisa krte ha orr jin k baray me yaha forum pe girls post krti ha. Or mere khne ka ye Mtlb b nai k bs Mard aise Krte girls b krti ha Magar is thread me ziada focus mard hazraat pe ha.
Waiting for your kind and Logical replies.
Mod edit: Edited title to be more descriptive of topic.
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myrizvi
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Group: Members Joined: 20th Apr, 2008 Topic: 128 Post: 7599 Age:
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| Posted on:24th Dec 2013, 1:00am |
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here lies the solution :) 1. pakistani society aik free-sex society nahi hai. issay west ki tarah 100% "free-sex society" banaa dijyeh. west hi ki tarah yahaan koi kissi ko ghooray gaa bhi nahi...haath laganaa ya comments karna to door ki baat hai.
2. agar aisaa nahi karsaktay ... nahi karna chaahtay ... to phir yeh aadha teetar aadha bater wala maamlah sakhti say khatam kardaiN... media aur public places main "aurtoun ki nomaish" ka silsilah band kardijyeh. naa.guzeer k elawah makloot-gatherings ko band kardijyeh.... publicly aurat ... aurat bankar...mastoor hokar niklay aur mardoun ko apni sexy-attractions nah dikhlaa.ay ... mazkoorah shikaayaat ka graph bahoot neechay gir jayega... misaal k liyeh dekhiyeh saudi society
3. teesra kaam yeh kijyehk jiss tarah apnay bachouN ko peT ki bhook lagnay par oski khoraak ka intezaam din maiN 3 baar yaa iss say bhi zayad baar kartay haiN... taakay bhooka bacha aas pass doosrouN k khoraak par haath saaf nah karay ... issi tarah jaisya hi bacha ya bachi baaligh hojaa.ay, oski jinsi bhook mitaanay ka baa.izzat tareeqah apnaaiyyeh aur oski shadi kardijyeh.
4. iskay baad fahaashi aur zinaa jaisay crime par islamic hadood naafiz kardijyeh... 2 chaar ko sazaa (koray /sangsaar) miltay hi society say in sha Allah above shiakaayaat ka 100 feesad khatema hojayega
jab tak pakistani society aur hakoomat above action nahi leti ... iss tarah hotaa rahega iss societ maiN... aap laakh bhashan detay rahaiN..laakh shor machatay rahaiN...kuch nahi hoga...aur aisay crime maiN izafah hi hota rahega...
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Activist
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Group: Members Joined: 04th Feb, 2012 Topic: 2 Post: 85 Age:
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| Posted on:24th Dec 2013, 1:36am |
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you r right my rizvi ye long term process ha. Changenis always slow. Aik constraints ye b ha k we cant discuss taboos. Situation bht bdal rhi ha magar phir b aisi batain discuss krna ghalat smjha jata ga. Even outside of this forum we camnot speak openly about this issue.
Even agr koi mard kisi aorat ko raah chalte cheray wo chup ho jati ha. Ab kuch larkiya ha jo wahi asmaaan sit pe utha leti ha |
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bushra2012
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Group: Members Joined: 15th Oct, 2013 Topic: 2 Post: 492 Age:
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| Posted on:24th Dec 2013, 7:28am |
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 @myrizvi
West sex-free society nahen hai. Albatta eastern europe sex free hai (germany bhi). Aur wahan kisi bhi qisim ka sex illegal nahen (zabardasti sex illegal hai). Magar, jis tarah Pakistan mein mehram rishton se sex, ya extra-marital sex illegal hai, ya same gender person ke saath sex illegal hai, usi tarah america etc. mein bhi illegal hai. Balke wahan to first cousin se shaadi bhi illegal hai.
Isi tarah saudi arabia ki aapne example dee wo koi pakeezgi ka garh nahen (hamaray muqaddas sheher hein wahan islye ham izzat kartay hein magar) 5 rial se le kar 5000 rial tak ki imported prostitute hai wahan. Ab aap batayn itne sakht visa qawaneen ke bawajud pimps ghareeb mulkon se larkian khareed kar latay hein phir wahan passport cheen kar dhanda karatay hein to kia police ko nazar nahen aata? Wese to mehram, na-mehram ka drama lagaya hua hai lekin jab ye larkian jinse jinsi ghulami karwai jati hai unki transportation hoti hai to ye loag andhay ho jatay hein. Immigration officer ko nazar nahen aata 12 saal ki larki baghair mehram ke country enter kar rahi hai.
Saudia mein larka 12 saal ka ho jata hai to uski maan khud uske bedroom jatay huay darti hai. Koshish karti hai lounge mein baat ki jay jahan ghar ke baqi loag bhi pay jatay hon. Kyunke usko dar hota hai uska apna beta uski izzat par hamla kar dega. Isi tarah wo apni betion ko bhi larkay ke kamray men janay ki ijazat nahen deti.
@Tehreem Az
Jo larkian aasman sar par utha leti hein unse bhi loag maza letay hein. Aur samjha jata hai ke prostitution ke baad payment nahen hui hogi jabhi drama lagaya hua hai - gahak se badla le rahi hein - warna shareef larki ke baray mein society mein yehi concept hai ke wo awaz tak nahen nikalay gi pee jaygi. Agar aapko mohallay ka pata ho to kuch ladies khaas hein jinhein har koi tang karta hai (kyun?) aur unko aksar shor machana parta hai (aur wo aam taur par bad character mashhoor bhi hoti hein) aur unke gali ki dukanon par kaam karnay walay larkon ne naam bhi rakhay hotay hein - wo bari chadar wali, wo baray galay wali, wo burqay wali, wo oonchi heel wali etc. kyunke ziada is tarah ke kaam waqai phaphay-kutnian hee karti pai jati hein.
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Activist
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Group: Members Joined: 04th Feb, 2012 Topic: 2 Post: 85 Age:
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| Posted on:24th Dec 2013, 7:37am |
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then what u say Phir girls kya kre? Shareef larki bn k chup chap sah jae?
For example aik aorat bazaar me ja rhi ha. Paas se guzarte admi ne bazu pe finger pher di ya back pe hath phera. Aorat dekhe or shareef bn k chup rhay?
Ap ko nai lgta k aorto ka aise awaaz na uthaana b mardo ko be rah rawi ki taraf le k ja rha ha? |
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bushra2012
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Group: Members Joined: 15th Oct, 2013 Topic: 2 Post: 492 Age:
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| Posted on:24th Dec 2013, 8:37am |
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@Tehreem Az Dear mein ne baat shayad ziada clear andaaz mein nahen ki. Kehnay ka maqsad ye tha, ke purana fashion chala aa raha hai, ke jo aurtein pehlay he bazaari hoti hein, wo shor macha kar mardon ko (ziada ba-izzat walon ko - kyunke bazaari aurat ko shareef mard jo unki taraf hawas ki nazar se nahen dekhtay wo mard unhein bohot he buray lagtay hein) tang karti hein. Pehlay to ye hota tha ke 4 loag bhai ban kar ajatay thay aur wo banda pit jata tha. Magar ab aisa nahen hota kyunke loagon ko bhi pata hota hai ke banda shareef ho aur aurat badmaash - tabhi shor machati hai. (Doosri baat ye bhi hai ke aajkal la-qanooniat bohot mushkil hogai hai - har kisi ke paas to aslaha hota hai. Agar 4 loag bhai ban kar aagay aur jis shakhs ne supposedly larki ko chaira hai usne tashaddud/street justice/lynch mobbing se bachnay ke lye larki ko ya aanay walon ko khat se thonk dia to kya hoga? Islye aajkal log dusron ke phadday mein nahen partay - bas dekh kar entertainment hasil kartay hein).
Aur isi lye agar achi khasi larki ko koi loafer tang karay to bhi wo shor na dalay kyunke is history ki wajah se loag to loafer bande ko Yousuf A.S ki tarah paak-daman aur larki ko jhoota ilzaam laganay wali samajhna shuru ho jatay hein. Iss tarah life aur difficult ho jati hai.
Is soorat mein aapka sawaal jo hai wohi mera sawaal bhi hai ke phir kia kya jay? Kia yoonhi sisak sisak kar jeena hoga?
Jahan tak mera khyal hai women empowerment ka aik topic ye bhi hai ke aurat ko apni larai larnay ke lye mohallay bhar ki zaroorat nahen. Kisi aadmi ko dusray se shikayat ho to wo khud he koot daalta hai ya shor machata hai? Yaqeenan wo apna masla khud hal karta hai. Islye aisi larki ko bhi chahye ke us lafange ko khud confront karein - aise nahen - iske lye pehlay martial arts training chahye hogi. Banda aurat se pitnay ke baad police report bhi file nahen karta - police bhi yahan helpul nahen hai insensitive hein victim ka mazaaq uratay hein - to wo usi ka mazaaq urain ge ke aurat se pit kar aagay ho FIR katanay.
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Activist
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Group: Members Joined: 04th Feb, 2012 Topic: 2 Post: 85 Age:
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| Posted on:24th Dec 2013, 9:11am |
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conclusion So ye conclude kia ja skta ha k being a male dominant society. Mard ko apni ehmiyat ka andaza hta ha. Wo shuruwaaat aorat ko bazaaar me cheermay se krta ha. Phir kisi larki se mobile ya social networking k through interaction, pyar muhabbat ki batain or phir milnay ka pyaaaam us k bad larki ki zindagi andhair.
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abdullah00
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Group: Members Joined: 29th Nov, 2013 Topic: 1 Post: 26 Age:
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| Posted on:24th Dec 2013, 10:42am |
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bushra Im not sure how u ended up on such conclusions abt saudia, mind explaining us?
I spent good part of my life(10 years) there, i never saw such thing(s).
Tehreem: Coming to the topic; abt girls losing their virginity, i think parents are responsible for that mostly. Larkion ko itni azadi ni deni chahiay k wo apna aur app ka munh kala karaen, un pe check rekhna chahiay . And abt people touching in markets, well us k liay girls shouldnt be wearing such dresses that attach men(see through or skin tight). Aur agar koi cheray bi tu, i think unhain wahin suna deni chahian. Chup ni rehna chahiay. Chup reh k app log un k hoslay hi barhaen gi. Shor karen aur logon se unhain maar parwaen, phr he thek hn ge wo. |
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goodman
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Group: Members Joined: 11th Oct, 2007 Topic: 62 Post: 7548 Age:
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| Posted on:24th Dec 2013, 1:35pm |
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tahreem tahreem agar larki khud larkay koo mobile no day to pher kiss ka qasoor ha?
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Activist
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Group: Members Joined: 04th Feb, 2012 Topic: 2 Post: 85 Age:
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| Posted on:24th Dec 2013, 2:02pm |
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goodman Agr larki mobile no de us ka matlab apni Izzat utar k us k haath me de di?
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goodman
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Group: Members Joined: 11th Oct, 2007 Topic: 62 Post: 7548 Age:
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| Posted on:24th Dec 2013, 2:05pm |
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tahreem to pher aj kal larkiya mobile no day rahi ha?
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alone but happy
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| Posted on:24th Dec 2013, 7:08pm |
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Goodman bhai ab tahreem bichari ko kia pta k ku deti hen numbr Par mai zaror bta sakta hun k larkon ko kuyn deti hen larkian apna mobil numbr. |
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myrizvi
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Group: Members Joined: 20th Apr, 2008 Topic: 128 Post: 7599 Age:
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| Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 1:01am |
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alone bhai iski bahoooot see wajoohaat haiN like1. aksar larkiyaan masoo aur ahmaq hoti hain 2. ghar ka mahaul etna ghotan wala hota hai k bahar say communication acha lagta hai 3. just for time pass 4. aik doosri ki dekha dekhi 5. laRkouN k behad israar par 6. laRkiyaan khud boray characters ki houN etc etc ... lekin tamaam soortou maiN ghar ki tarbiat ki kami laazmi hoti hai |
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Activist
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Group: Members Joined: 04th Feb, 2012 Topic: 2 Post: 85 Age:
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| Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 1:53am |
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myrizvi i dnt agree Koi b maa baaap bcho ko ye tarbiyat nai de sktay.
Han bchay khud apnay nafs k hatho tang ho kar ye kaam kre to alag baaat ha.
Is k ilawa during studies i mean on higher education level tb b numbers exchanhe krne e parte ha kaaam k lye. Ya kahi resume forward kro waha se b num lia jata ha.
Is thread ka maksad ye janna ha k why boys do that. Girla ki b ghalti hoti ha i admit. Mene oper kaha b ha magar yaha baaat mard hazraaat ki ho rhi ha. |
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ghalib1505
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Group: Members Joined: 15th May, 2012 Topic: 9 Post: 154 Age:
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| Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 2:57am |
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 Agreed with MyRizvi
Larkiyo ko ABAYA orh k baher jana chahye..aapny bhi dekha hoga k jo larkiya abaya pahenti hain unko koi preshan nahi krta. banisbat bina abaya wali larkiyon k. Or larkon ko bhi ye khayal rkhna chahiye k jaisa wo dusron ki bahen betiyo k sath ker rhy hain unki bahen betiyon k sath dusry log bhi kre to kaisa lgega.. Allah ham sabhi ko apny hifz o amaan me rakhy (aameen) |
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Zubii
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Group: Members Joined: 01st Oct, 2013 Topic: 1 Post: 34 Age:
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| Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 3:28am |
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Socho Kch logo ny likha
ha k grlz khd ko
cover krain ge toh
esa ne hoga
par yahan to observe
kia gaya ha k topi
wala buraqa jo
pehan kr nikalti
hn unhay b tang
kia jata ha
yahan 5 ya 6 sal
k bachiyon
ka b rape hojata
ha kya wo
b seduce krti hn? |
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Zubii
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Group: Members Joined: 01st Oct, 2013 Topic: 1 Post: 34 Age:
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| Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 3:28am |
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Socho ...MOD EDIT: Duplicate post...
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Activist
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Group: Members Joined: 04th Feb, 2012 Topic: 2 Post: 85 Age:
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| Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 6:29am |
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zubii That is my point. Sirf aorat ka khud ko dikhana e problem nai ha.
There is some other thing.
sincerity and such khatam ho gya ha. Hr koi dosray ko dhoka deta ha. Jo andar ka zameeeer hta ha na wo khtm hota jja rha ha. Koi ye nai sochta k me Khuda ko kya jawab du ga. |
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Zubii
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Group: Members Joined: 01st Oct, 2013 Topic: 1 Post: 34 Age:
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| Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 7:15am |
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Tehreem Is fahaashi aur behrahrawi
ko roqnay ka
aik e tareeqa ha
islami qawaneen
ka nafaz chori
krnay walay
k hath kato aur
zinah krnay
walo ko
sungsaar aur daray
ya koray
marain
jain
phr yh khatam ho
jaye ga sb.
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goodman
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Group: Members Joined: 11th Oct, 2007 Topic: 62 Post: 7548 Age:
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| Posted on:25th Dec 2013, 10:41am |
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excellent replies agree with my rizvi and zubi...very nice replies for both persons....
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