Ehal E Bait

Ehal E Bait Nabi SAW Ki Asli Tafseel

Umahat Ul Momineen

Sayeda Khadija Tul Kubra Binat E Khuwailed RA

Sayeda Sauda Binat E Zama’a RA

Sayeda Ayesha Siddiqa Binat E Abu bakar RA

Sayeda Hafsa Binat E Umar RA

Sayeda Zainab Binat E Khazeema RA

Sayeda Um E Salma Binat E Sohail RA

Sayeda Zainab Binat E Jahash RA

Sayeda Jaweriya Binat E Haris RA

Sayeda Um E Habiba Binat E Abu Sufiyan RA

Sayeda Safiya Binat E Hayee RA

Sayeda Memuna Binat E Haris RA

Sayeda Rehana Binat E zaid RA

Sayeda Mariya Qibtiya Binat E Shamaun RA

Nabi SAW kay Betay

Sayedna Qasim

Sayedna Ibrahim

Sayedna Abdullah

Sayedna Taher ( Tayyab)

Nabi SAW ki Betiyan

Sayeda Zainab Zoja Sayedna Abul A’as RA

Sayeda Ruqqaiya Zoja Sayedna Usman RA

Sayeda Um E Kalsum Zoja Sayedna Usman RA

Sayeda Fatima Al Zahara Zoja Ali Al Murtaza RA

Nabi SAW kay Nawasay

Sayedna Ali Bin Sayedna Abul A’as

Sayedna Abdullah Bin Sayedna Usman RA

Sayedna Hassan Bin Sayedna Ali Al Murtaza RA

Sayedna Hussain Bin Sayedna Ali Al Murtaza RA

Nabi SAW Ki Nawasiyan

Sayeda Umama Binat E Sayedna Abul A’as Zoja Sayedna Ali Al Murtaza RA

Sayeda Um Kalsum Binat E Sayedna Ali Al Murtaza Zoja Sayedna Umar Bin Khattab RA

Sayeda Zainab Binat E Sayedna Ali Al Murtaza Zoja Sayedna Abdullah Bin Ja’afar RA

Sayeda Ruqqaiya Binat E Sayedna Ali Al Murtaza RA ( Bachpan main Wisaal Fermaya)

Yeh asal arakaan e ehal e bait Nabi SAW

Pata nhn kiun Tareekh main Kuch ka naam aur tafseel hi kilti hai sab ki nhn

(Naam Main Koi ghalti Translation aur lehjay main ho sakty hai )

(Nabi SAW Beton k Samnay RA nhn Likha kiun k main ne isi terah perha hai )

Siyah Posh aka Wehshi

Lagta hai ab sahabion ki terha Ahle Bait a.s bhi mujhay hi batanay parein ge tumhain :P

Tumhari jahiliat dekh ker mujhay hansi aati hai...

Kher tum topic se bhaag na jao iss liye mein tum se ahista ahista sawal karon ga...

Tum Quran ki ayat Inama Ma Yureed Ullah ka shan e nazool dikhao k uss waqt chadar mein kon kon thay jab Rasool Allah saww ne dua ki thi...

Aur dosri baat Rasool Allah saww ki aik biwi Aap saww ki wafaat k baad murtad bhi ho gaye thi jo ashas bin qais ki behan thi,kiya tumharay dharam mein woh bhi Ahle Bait a.s mein shamil hai ??

Aur tujhay kis jahil ne bataya k hazrat umm kulsoom bint Ali a.s ka nikah umar k sath hua tha ??

Agar shoq ho to yeh topic bhi start kerna ta k tumhain iss topic per bhi yazeed lanati walay topic ki terha zaleel karon :P

Siyah Posh aka Wehshi

Lagta hai ab sahabion ki terha Ahle Bait a.s bhi mujhay hi batanay parein ge tumhain :P

Tumhari jahiliat dekh ker mujhay hansi aati hai...

Kher tum topic se bhaag na jao iss liye mein tum se ahista ahista sawal karon ga...

Tum Quran ki ayat Inama Ma Yureed Ullah ka shan e nazool dikhao k uss waqt chadar mein kon kon thay jab Rasool Allah saww ne dua ki thi...

Aur dosri baat Rasool Allah saww ki aik biwi Aap saww ki wafaat k baad murtad bhi ho gaye thi jo ashas bin qais ki behan thi,kiya tumharay dharam mein woh bhi Ahle Bait a.s mein shamil hai ??

Aur tujhay kis jahil ne bataya k hazrat umm kulsoom bint Ali a.s ka nikah umar k sath hua tha ??

Agar shoq ho to yeh topic bhi start kerna ta k tumhain iss topic per bhi yazeed lanati walay topic ki terha zaleel karon :P

nice reply Mufti:)

Mufty

jab GUTTER main tezaab ka aik QATRA dala jai to isi terah ghalazat bhar aati hai jesay ap k ander se ap ka bughaz nikla hai

halankay is se ap ka koi taluq hi nhn pata nhn kiun ap log khud ko bohat bera himaiyti samjhtay hain EHAL E BAIT ka aur baqi sab ko dushman jab k haqeeqatan ap log sab se beray dushman ho

mujhay ETRAAF hai apni jehalat ka us ilam ki nisbat jo ap k pass hai aur Allah mujhay aisay ilam se be behra hi rakhay jo Sahaba aur Nabi k liyay bughaz rakhta hai

ap log to nabi SAW per bhi Ali RA ko foqiyat de do balkay detay bhi ho jesay ghazwa khebar k biyan main ap ka zakir fermata hai k ager Nabi SAW k honay se fatah milna honi hoty to Nabi SAW Ali RA ko kiun pukartay MUSHKIL KUSHAAI K LIYAY (NAUZ O BILLAH) ager koi rakhna milay to ap log baz nhn atay ho lekin chunkay islam se hi nikaal diyay jao gay is liyay chupkay bethay ho

ap ne aaj phir sabit ker diya k ap ka ilam history ka hai na k QURAN AUR HADEES aur SHARIYAT ka kiun k

na aap Quran ko mukamal mantay ho na hadees ko mantay ho sahaai sitta ap ko pasand nhn

is liyay ap ka mazhab aur ilam sirif history per base kerta hai

Ehal E Bait yehi hain jo likhay gai hain ab in main se ap kam kerdo apnay bughaz main to Allah behter janta hai

Ayat ka shan e nazool kya kisi hadees main hai ya ap logon ka apna ghera huwa jesay SURAH FAJAR ki last Ayat k baray bhi ap ka apna ghera huwa shan e nazool hai

is k ilawa aik bat yaad rakhain koi UM UL MOMINEEN aisi nhn jo Nabi SAW k baad NAUZ o Billah IRTIDAAD ka shikar hui hon

yeh bhi ap hi logon ka koi ghera huwa naya fitna hai ya ap hi ki likhi hui history ka koi drama

Allah ne Nabi SAW k sath kisi aisi hasty ko mansub kiya jo is duniya main kuch ghalat keray na Ap SAW ki koi ZOJA na AOLAD na KOI SATHI

lekin ap ka androoni bughaz ap logon ko ilawa Ali RA aur AOLAD E ALI RA  k kuch aur dekhnay hi nhn deta

ap jo merzi keh lo kitni bhi ghalazat se bol lo mujhay koi feraq nhn perta au rmujhay hi kya kisi bhi musalman ko feraq nhn peray ga

abhi to aghaz hai dekhtay jao kitnay tezabi QATRAY is GUTTER main daloon ga k ap k ander ak sara IRTADAAD nikal is forum per nazar aai ga

ABHI THORA HI SACH KAHA HAI TO CHILA UTHAY HAIN AAP

ABHI TO NIKALNA DIL KA GHUBAAR BAQI HAI

:):):)

Siyah Posh

Aap kuch ilmi baat bhi karo ge ya aisay hi un-perh auraton ki terha kostay hi raho ge ??

Mein ne pcoha k iss ka shan e nazol dikhao jab Rasool Allah saww ne dua ki k yeh meray Ahle Bait a.s hain,uss chadar mein kitnay loag thay...jitnay loag thay wohi ahle bait thay...

Dosri baat tum zara ilmi baat karo to mein sunni hadith books aur tafaseer se hi sabit karon ga k sirf wohi ahle bait a.s thay jo shan e nazool mein chadar k neechay thay...

Baaki biwian to thein lakin ahle bait a.s mein shamil na thein...

Aur aap jo keh rahay ho Rasool Allah saww ki kisi zoja ne aisa kuch nahi kiya to jao apni history ki books perh lo,sab se ziada mustanad tarikh e tabari hi hai na ??

Ussay perho uss mein uss ka waqiya mil jaye ga k woh aurat kon thi,kis ki behan thi aur uss ne wafaat e Rasool saww k baad kiya kia...

Kabootar ki terha aankhein bund ker lenay se sach chupaya nahi ja sakta...

Aur aap azwaaj ki agar baat ker rahay ho to Surah Tahreem ki start ki ayaat hi perh lo,woh kon 2 biwian thein jin k baray mein Allah ne fermaya k taubah karo kiun k tum dono k dil murr chukay hain ??

Aur Kiya Allah ne azwaaj ko apnay gharon mein bethnay ka hukam nahi diya tha ??

Kiya Rasool Allah saww ne azwaaj ko nahi kaha tha k tumhain ab gharon mein bethna hai ??

Kiya Rasool Allah saww ne nahi fermaya tha k aik biwi per hawaib k kuttay bhonkein ge ??

Aur kiya aap ko ilm nahi k kon se biwi Allah swt aur Rasool saww k hukam k khilaf jang kernay nikali aur unn per hawaib k kuttay bhonkay ??

Kiya Allah aur Rasool saww ki hukam-adooli ko aap sahi kaam samajhtay ho ??

Kher mein ne aap se bohat hi simple sawal pocha k shan e nazool se sabit karo k yeh sab loag Ahle Bait a.s mein shamil thay...

Aur aap fikar na kerna mein aap hi hadith tafseer books se apni baat sabit karon ga,mein aap ka ilm dekh raha hoon k aap apnay iss aqeeda ko kaisay defend kertay hain :P

Aur meri teraf se abhi aghaz bhi nahi hua,aghaz abhi hona baaki hai,hamesha ki terha aap ab bhagna mat kiun k yeh ohad ka maidan nahi hai :P

mufty

is riwayet ki sand kya hai ??? tumhari books k ilawa???

yeh aik riwayat hai jis ka shariyat ya deen se koi taluq nhn

chalo man liyay k baqol tumharay wohi EHAL E BAIT thay phir kay deen badal jai ga ???

kya ALI RA , FATIMA RA ya HASSAN O HUSSAIN RA ki bertaeri sabit ho gai puri duniya per???

ais akuch nhn

deen Nabi SAW se shuru hota hai aur Nabi SAW perkhatam hota hai

aur kuch nhn

Allah ki zaat hi MUSHKIL KUSHA hai aur koi nhn

tum log jo merzi kerlo tum logon ki qismat main seena kobi aur rona dhona likh diya gay ahai

tumhara aghaz hai nhn to ho ga kya tumhara aghaz bhi ghalazat hai aur intehaa bhi jo tum EHBAAB E NABI per phaikntay hO

WESAY BHI BAQOL SHAKHSAY K TUM LOGON SE BEHAS KESI

BEHAS KA MATLAB HAI RESEARCH JAB TUM LOGON KA DEEN HI ALAG HAI TO RESEARCH KESI

yeh kesay ab dekho aur perho

tumhara aqeeda yeh hai

tehreef aur taghayur wa tabadul k waqeaa honay main Quran, TORAIT aur INJEEl hi ki terah hai aur munafqeen ummat per musalat ho ker hakim ban gai hain woh QURAn main Quran main tehreef kernay k baray usi tareeq per chalay hain jsi per BANI ISRAEL thay (FASAL UL KHITAB, PAGE 70 BA HAWALA BUNIYAAT PAGE 62)

wo Quran jo Jibrael AS Nabi SAW per le ker nazil huway thay us main 17000 ayaat thin(ASOOL KAFI PART 6 PAGE 75 & PAGE 56)

asal Quran main se bohat sa hissa SAQIT ker diya gaya hai ( SAAFI sharah ASOOL KAFI PART 6 PAGE 75 & PAGE 56 )

un tamaam riwayat per ashaab ka itefaaq hai jo btati hai k Araab main Quran main tehreef ki gai ( ASOOL KAFI PAGE 65)

yeh bat sabit ho chuki hai k jo Quran humaray pass hai yeh bilkul usi terah nhn hai jis terah Nabi SAW per nazil huwa tha is main kuch hissa aisa bhi hai jo Allah k Quran k khilaf hai aur kuch hissay main taghayur aur tabadul ho chuka hai aur bohat si cheezain nikal di gai hain (TAFSEER SAAFI BAHAWALA EHSAN UL FATAWA PART 1 PAGE 75)

Quran main se jo kuch nikala ya tehreef kiya gay aya badla gaya hai us k biyaan main jaun to baat lambi ho jai gi aur woh cheez zahir ho jai gi jis k izhaar ki TAQAIYA ijazat nhn deta ( EHTIJAAJ TIBRI PRINTED IN IRAN PAGE 128 & 75)

Quran main kuch aisi batain bhi hain jo Allah ne biyan nhn ki hain (EHTIJAAJ TIBRI PAGE 25 &81)

yeh sab hawalajat tumhari hi kitabon se hain in ko jhutlaao gay ab

aur jab nhn kjhutlaa sako gay to aajao gay history per ya phir galiyon per ya aur kuch nhn to thread delete kerdo gay

kiun tumhari yehi auqaat hai

tum log islam se bohat bohat balkay bohat hi door ho aur yahudiyat k bohat nazdeek

siyah posh

Chalo yahan ab sahi discussion kertay hain...

Tum ne mujh se pocha k iss riwayat ki sanad kiya hai aur tum keh rahay ho k yeh riwayat sirf shia aqaid mein hai...

Ab mein tumhain bohat hi asaan kaam deta hoon...

Tum ne jo yeh naam likhay hain,tum inn ko apnay hi dharam ki books se Ahle Bait a.s mein shamil hua dikhao...

Aur mein tumharay hi dharam ki books se Panjtan Paak a.s ko Ahle Bait a.s dikhaon ga aur woh bhi bohat se riwayaat se aur sahih riwayat se bhi :P

Bolo manzoor hai ??

Ab atay hain tahreef per...

tehreef aur taghayur wa tabadul k waqeaa honay main Quran, TORAIT aur INJEEl hi ki terah hai aur munafqeen ummat per musalat ho ker hakim ban gai hain woh QURAn main Quran main tehreef kernay k baray usi tareeq per chalay hain jsi per BANI ISRAEL thay (FASAL UL KHITAB, PAGE 70 BA HAWALA BUNIYAAT PAGE 62)

Iss kitab ka mein ne aaj tak naam hi nahi suna aur agar tumhain arabic aati hai to mujhay batao k fasal ul kitab ka matlab kiya hai ??

Mein ne tujhay pehlay hi kaha tha k sunni sunai baaton per yaqeen ker k yahan mat paste kiya ker werna sharmindagi ho gi..mujhay bata k iss book ka writer kon hai ??

wo Quran jo Jibrael AS Nabi SAW per le ker nazil huway thay us main 17000 ayaat thin(ASOOL KAFI PART 6 PAGE 75 & PAGE 56)

Dekha maar di na dundi :P

Tu ab khud scan page dikhay ga iss ref. ka ya mein tujhay dikhaon ??

Kiun k tu ne translation mein dundi maari hai...

Kher mein tujh se issi per sawal pochta hoon k yeh kahan likha hai k mojooda quran mein 17000 ayaat hain ??

Beshaq hum mantay hain k Hazrat Jibrael a.s 17000 ayaat hi le ker aaye...kiya tu unn mein mansookh ayaat add nahi karay ga ??

Yeh total ayaat ki baat ki gaye hai k Hazrat Jibrael a.s total kitni ayaat le ker aaye...

Unn mein se kafi mansookh ho gaein aur jo mansookh nahi huin woh aaj bhi Quran mein mojood hain...

Aur Quran agar kabhi life mein perha ho to surah Baqra verse 106 perho jis mein Allah swt ne saaf bataya hai k jo ayaat mansookh hoti hain uss ko ya to hum bhula detay hain ya naye ayat latay hain....ab tu bata k kiya Quran ki ayaat mansookh nahi hui thein ??

Dekho mein ne pehlay bhi shayed tujhay kaha tha k shia aqeeda tumhari soch se bohat balater hai,tum loagon ka itna mayaar hi nahi hai k tum shia aqeeda ko samajh sako...tum loagon ko jab itni se baat samajh nahi aaye k yahan total ayaat ki baat ho rahi hai jab k bohat hi common se baat hai,phir tumhain sharai masail kahan se samajh aaein ge ??

asal Quran main se bohat sa hissa SAQIT ker diya gaya hai ( SAAFI sharah ASOOL KAFI PART 6 PAGE 75 & PAGE 56 )

Dekho beta poori riwayat likho,sirf aik jumla ker k tum loagon ko gumrah kerna chahtay ho ??

Yahan poori riwayat likho jis mein sanad bhi ho gi :P

un tamaam riwayat per ashaab ka itefaaq hai jo btati hai k Araab main Quran main tehreef ki gai ( ASOOL KAFI PAGE 65)

Mujhay yaqeen hai k tujhay yeh baat bhi samajh nahi aaye ho gi aur yahan bhi tu ne aadhi riwayat quote ker k apnay baap dada ki terha dundi maari hai :P

Kher mein issi per baat ker leta hoon,tu itna bata k kiya Rasool Allah saww k zamana mein Quran per araab thay ??

Ya usman ne jab quran jamah kiya aur baaki quran jala diya,kiya uss waqt araab tha ??

Jahil insan araab lagaye thay hajjaj bin yousaf saqfi ne,aur ussay kiya pata tha k Quran kaisay nazil hua aur kaisay perha jata tha jab k woh to bohat baad ki baat hai...

Ab ussay jaisa acha laga uss ne araab lagaye aur yeh araab k masla to tumharay dharam ki books mein bhi mojood hai..phir shia per hi ilzam kiun ??

Aur araab ki ghaltion per etiraz kerna woh tahreef nahi kehlai jati jail insan jis per hamari behas ho rahi hai :P

yeh bat sabit ho chuki hai k jo Quran humaray pass hai yeh bilkul usi terah nhn hai jis terah Nabi SAW per nazil huwa tha is main kuch hissa aisa bhi hai jo Allah k Quran k khilaf hai aur kuch hissay main taghayur aur tabadul ho chuka hai aur bohat si cheezain nikal di gai hain (TAFSEER SAAFI BAHAWALA EHSAN UL FATAWA PART 1 PAGE 75)

Yeh tafseer shayed meray paas laptop mein kahin pari hai,mein part 1 ko check kerta hoon aur phir iss per comments doon ga...

Quran main se jo kuch nikala ya tehreef kiya gay aya badla gaya hai us k biyaan main jaun to baat lambi ho jai gi aur woh cheez zahir ho jai gi jis k izhaar ki TAQAIYA ijazat nhn deta ( EHTIJAAJ TIBRI PRINTED IN IRAN PAGE 128 & 75)

Quran main kuch aisi batain bhi hain jo Allah ne biyan nhn ki hain (EHTIJAAJ TIBRI PAGE 25 &81)

Yeh writer kon hai iss book ka ??

Aur yeh kis doar mein tha ?? iss ki detail zara mujhay do..

yeh sab hawalajat tumhari hi kitabon se hain in ko jhutlaao gay ab

aur jab nhn kjhutlaa sako gay to aajao gay history per ya phir galiyon per ya aur kuch nhn to thread delete kerdo gay

kiun tumhari yehi auqaat hai

tum log islam se bohat bohat balkay bohat hi door ho aur yahudiyat k bohat nazdeek

Aray yeh kuch bhi nahi hai,mein iss se ziada tumharay dharam ki books se doon ga :P

Tum fikar mat karo abhi to shuruwaat hui hai...

Tum kis Islam ki baat ker rahay ho ??

Woh jis mein yahudion ki terha hath bandh ker ibadat ki jaye ??

Agar tum iss ko Islam keh rahay ho to hum waqai aisay bidati deen se bohat door hain...

mufty

mujhay etraaf hai k hum jahil hain

kiun????

is liyay k ager koi PATHAR main se pani nikalnay ka sochay ya

tum logon ko IMAAN ki taleem de woh JAHIL hi ho ga

wesay bhi rah chaltay ager koi JANWER KATNAY AAI to hum log us k peechay nhn bhagtay katnay k liyay balkay apni jan bachatay hain is liyay tum logon ki to aadat hai her baat main koodna aur hum to wapis tum logon ki nhn KAAT saktay na

aakhir hum insaanon main aur tum main itna feraq to hai na

:):):)

hum inhain EHAL E BAIT maintay hain to tum logon ko kya problem hai tum PANJTAN PAK ko mano ya kisi aur ko ager kisi thread main tum logon ko mukhatib kiya jai to aao aur kudo lekin jahan aik general thread ho wahan tum log aajatay ho lernay k liyay kiun ????

mujhay forum k hi aik buzurag ne samjhaya hai k kiun main apni zuban kharab ker raha hun tum logon se ler ker kiun k yeh BEHAS to hai nhn

BEHAS ka matlab hota hai TEHQEEQ jo tum log ki qismat main nhn

tum logon ko to tumharay apnay IMAAM ALI RA na samjha sakay balkay tum logon ko unhon ne khud se alag qarar diya tah us waqt bhi

waqeaa HUKAM yad kero

humara deen BIDAATI hai ok humain yehi pasand hai

is liyay aaj se khatam tum log jo bhi chaho kaho koi jawab nhn dun ga

LEKIN

jo jo mujhay milta jai ga us ka thread banata jaun ga logon k ilam main izafay k liyay

so aaj se again

NAARAI CHUP

siyah posh

Tumhain apni jahiliat ka etiraf kernay ki zaroorat nahi,yeh baat hum bohat pehlay se jantay hain...

Ab atay hain asal topic per,mein ne tumhain 10 din pehlay kaha tha k jo naam tum ne yahan likhay hain unn ko books se sabit karo k yeh sab Ahle Bait a.s hain...

Lakin ab tum bhagnay ka programme bana chukay ho lakin tumhain batanay ki shayed zaroorat nahi k yeh forum hai ohad ka maidan nahi jo tum iss terha bhaag jao ge...

Mein tumhain phir aik dafa moqa deta hoon k tum apni iss baat ko sabit karo agar tum ne yeh sabit na kiya to mein tumharay dharam ki books se yeh sabit karon ga k Ahle Bait a.s sirf wohi thay jo ayat k nazool k waqt chadar k neechay thay...

Ab iss moqa ko ghaneemat samjho phir na kehna k khabar na hui...tumhari next post k baad mein yeh sabit ker doon ga k tumhara yeh jo aqeeda hai yeh ghalat aur batil hai,iss liye next post mein koshish kerna k apnay aqeeda ko apni books ya shia books se sabit kerna.

Aur tum 1 nahi 1000 threads banao mujhay iss per koi etiraz nahi hai kiun k jitni tum posts banao ge mein tumhain aur tumharay dharam ko tumhari hi books se jhoota sabit karon ga :P

Ahal-e-Bait

Mufti

Aur dosri baat Rasool Allah saww ki aik biwi Aap saww ki wafaat k baad murtad bhi ho gaye thi jo ashas bin qais ki behan thi,kiya tumharay dharam mein woh bhi Ahle Bait a.s mein shamil hai ??

My Reply :

tm isy nabi SAW ki biwi maanty ho ??? yeh simple sa jawab dy do..

or apni kitaben bhi khol kr dekh lia kro.. yeh hi cheez mey tmhy tmahri kitab sy dikha dun ga..

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Aur tujhay kis jahil ne bataya k hazrat umm kulsoom bint Ali a.s ka nikah umar k sath hua tha ??

Agar shoq ho to yeh topic bhi start kerna ta k tumhain iss topic per bhi yazeed lanati walay topic ki terha zaleel karon :P

My Reply:

lagta hy tmhy manazaray krny ka bohot shok hy .. tm mujh sy kr lo is topic pr discussion.. lakin kuch sharait k sath.. k baat sirf riwayaat pr hogi.. mey shia books sy riwaayat dun ga or sabit krun ga k Umm Kulsum bint Ali RA ka nikaah Umar ibn Khataab RA say hua tha.. tm sunni book sy riwayaat dy kr sabit krna k aesa nahi hua tha... riwayat ko zaeef kaha to sabit bhi krna pry ga k konsa rawi zaeef hy or kis rijal k alim ny zaeef kraar dia . is sy hat k koi bahas koi sawal nahi hoga.. agr kro gy to mey to kamaz kam ksi sawal ka jawab nahi dun ga manzur hy ???

batman1

koi fayeda nhn is behas ka jo sach hai hum aap jantay hain

lekn manwa nhn saktay kiun k jo bhi ap hum jis bhi kitab se sabit kerain gay usay mana nhn jai ga

hum Azwaj e mutahrat main us aurat ko shamil hi nhn kertay to us ko ginay gay kiun lekin yeh log kertay hain

any how yeh behas bekar hai kiun k jan boojh ker inkar ka koi hal nhn

wesay bhi moat ankhain kholay gi

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batman1

aik baat to clear hai k shiyat ka aqeeda islam se bohat door hai kiun k shiyat ki base sirif history hai aur kuch khud sakhta ahadees jin main ehl e bait ka ziker hai

is k ilawa kuch nhn is aqeeday main

baqi visitors bhi jantay hain lekin koi bolta nhn shayed dertay hain

main to bohat bar koshish ker chuka k soay huway dil aur zehan jagain lekin BESOOD raha

Ali rajput hotay thay lekin ab to woh bhi muafi mang chukay hain un se

meri to yeh SIYAHPOSH wali id bhi isi liyay block ker di gai lekin kisi main himat nhn hui k samnay aaker qaboolta k us ne ki hai

mera to wazeaa aqeeda hai k shiyat ka islam se koi taluq nhn lekin myrizvi ne kaha k yeh behas bekar hai isi liyay khamoshi ikhtiyar ker li k

MOAT K BAAD SAB JAN LEN GAY K KON MUSHKIL KUSHA HAI ALAH YA ALI

ab aap koshish ker k dekh len hum sath hain

SIRIF AUR SIRIF YA ALLAAH MADAD

BAQI SAB SHIRAK O BODA'AT

wehshi bhai

myrizvi

yehi main ne bhi araz kiya hai k aisi behas la hasil hai kiun k hum ap kitni bhi tehzeeb ka muzahira ker len jawab tehzeeb senhn milay ga kiun k jab daleel nhn ho gi to bad zubani hi daleel ban jati hai

thnx for response

batman1 se bhi guzarish hai k is sab ko dhaka hi rehnay do

myrizvi, batman1, wehshi

myrizwi, wehshi

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