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psychdoc Group: Members  Joined: 04th Mar, 2011  Topic: 11  Post: 1228  Age:  33  
Posted on:13th Oct 2012, 12:25pm
 

Buttercup:

Walaikum Salam,

I am doing great, thanks. And thank you for your kind words and being so appreciative. And I am glad to be of some help. Certainly, my pleasure:)

Regarding injectibles, these are hormonal shots that stimulate egg maturation/ovulation, either to be used on their own, or prior to the IVF. Several different ones are available, HCG being a more common one, and different clinics use them according to different protocols.

Yes, they require very close monitoring through serial ultrasounds and blood work ( E2 levels or estradiol Levels), and the timing of the administration of the shot is crucial, because if not given at the correct time, treatment fails. In women who are not ovulating on their own, a series of shots is given prior to the HCG trigger. However, the HCG shot is just a single shot and is invariably followed by ovulation in 35-40 hours. Depending upon whether your doctor is planning to give you HCG as standalone treatment, you would be advised regarding the timing/frequency of intercourse, or if the doctor is planning IVF, the egg would be retrieved the day following the shot.

The success rate depends upon a variety of factors, including the underlying reasons for infertility, timing of the shot, body's response to the shot etc etc.

Regarding the number of cycles, there is no absolute number, and the success rate generally is the same for the first 4 cycles. As far as their side effects, there is a risk of OHSS ( Ovarian Hyper Stimulation Syndrome), which in most cases is mild and self limited, but in rare cases could be  serious as well. There is increased chance of multiple pregnancies( twins, triplets), risk of ectopic pregnancies ( pregnancy that implants in an abnormal place instead of the uterus), risk of miscarriage etc. Most likely, symptoms that you will experience would be mild nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, headache, and some breast enlargement.

I know my answer is rather non specific, but without knowing what exactly your doctor is planning on doing, either standalone treatment or as part of IVF, this is the best that I can tell you. If you give me more specific information as to what your doctor is suggesting, then ofcourse I would be able to tell you more clearly.

As always, my best wishes for you:)



Buttercup Group: Members  Joined: 11th Jul, 2011  Topic: 2  Post: 36  Age:  26  
Posted on:23rd Oct 2012, 4:12pm
 

RE..Psychdoc

AOA...

so here goes the story of this month... doctor started me on injection pergoveris 150 iu/75 iu (follitropin alfa/lutropin alfa) for 5 days from cd 3-7.. and did ultrasound on cd8...doc was astonished to see soo many follicles on each overies...they were like 8-10 in a single ovary,,sized almost 1-1.5 cm...she got reluctant to give me HCG trigger shot...

she called me a day after,,and the follicle size was increasing,,the largest ones were 2cm...

and then called me 2 days later...and still they were increasing in size and nuber as well.. she was surprised to see that and said that i was only given a lower dose.. she said even without hcg injection,,i have a risk of multiple pregnancy (5-8)...she refused to continue this cycle and said that either abort this cycle or go for ivf... we dont want ivf .. so i just came home after signing the papers to abort this cycle...
will be startig to get primoult N from tomorrow to induce period..and refrain from intercourse...
i will b going for follow up ultrasounds after every 3-5 days this cycle to see how r my ovaries now...
she said maybe next cycle,,u will ovulate on yr own and also it will b super ovulation...
wat r your opinions doctor??

Buttercup Group: Members  Joined: 11th Jul, 2011  Topic: 2  Post: 36  Age:  26  
Posted on:23rd Oct 2012, 4:19pm
 

Re

and also i had by estradiol levels checked...will get report tomorrow..

i was very much hopeful this month...now we both r disheartened... it feels like i have had multiple miscarriage... it was soo much effort,,to go to doctor 3-4 times in a week and its 2 hours drive from home... and just this cycle cost us almost 4000 AED... :(
im sorry but i had to take it out somewhere...
so doctor,,do i have good chances for next month..

psychdoc Group: Members  Joined: 04th Mar, 2011  Topic: 11  Post: 1228  Age:  33  
Posted on:24th Oct 2012, 10:18pm
 

Buttercup:

Walaikum Salam,

Sorry to hear about your experience. I know it really hurts when things like these happen, particularly when we have invested so much of our time, our energies, our hopes and our emotions, and still things don't come to fruition. I know you must be feeling very frustrated right now.

You had an excessive response to pergoveris, and your doctor did the right thing by not giving you the HCG trigger.

I want to make sure that you did not have a potentially serious complication called OHSS; which can sometimes cause excessive weight gain of several pounds during the few days of treatment, pain and swelling in the belly, and lack of urination? Generally, OHSS is a mild condition and is self limited, but sometimes can cause complications that I just described. I want to make sure that you did not have any of these symptoms.

When exactly was your E2 level checked?

You mentioned that you felt like having multiple miscarriages. Must be really hard for you to go through all this, and I certainly hope and pray that next cycle would bring about the desired outcome for you, Ameen.

With my prayers and best wishes for you!

Buttercup Group: Members  Joined: 11th Jul, 2011  Topic: 2  Post: 36  Age:  26  
Posted on:1st Nov 2012, 1:06pm
 

RE..Psychdoc

AOA...
sory for late reply...
i did not had any major symptoms of OHSS...just mild cramping on 5th day of injection for 2 days...and i did felt a little bloated that day... and a little sore breasts...apart from that weight remained normal and now im perfectly ok.

i am taking primoult for 10 days to induce periods and will go for scanning right away to see how r my ovaries doing.. is it possible that i will still have some of those mature follicles of previous month??

i was checked for estradiol...they came back normal as 936 on cd 11..

thanks a lot for your support and well wishers... JAZAKALLAH
psychdoc Group: Members  Joined: 04th Mar, 2011  Topic: 11  Post: 1228  Age:  33  
Posted on:4th Nov 2012, 11:03pm
 

Buttercup:

Walaikum Salam,

It's good that you did not have OHSS. Yes, it is possible that you may still have some mature follicles from the previous cycle. Did you tell your doctor that according to your OPK, you were ovulating spontaneously?

Thanks, and I wish you all the best.

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