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Masturbation - Times Have changed

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marriedguy Group: Members  Joined: 13th Jul, 2011  Topic: 1  Post: 64  Age:  41  
Posted on:8th Sep 2011, 9:09am
 

Masturbation - Times Have changed

From an Islamic Point of View : (A personal note) Almost everybody Masturbates or has experimented with their sexual organs during puberty... even if they deny it, especially in Islam since it is such a taboo.  But as nature would have it we are all sexual beings and we all have hormones which come in action when we become teenagers.  This is clearly a lesser or the 2 evils... where one can either simply choose to masturbate, which is a harmless, pleasureful activity... when compared to actually doing GUNAH and having sex before marriage.  I feel that in addition to relieving sexual tension, masturbation is a safe way to avoid sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies.  People in our culture like ours (Islam) forbid its practice, however there is no physical side affect of the activity and there is no concrete proof that it is actually forbidden in Islam.  If you have read the NOOR CLINIC posts by many of its members, you shall see that in general the medical community considers it to be a natural and harmless expression of sexuality for both men & women. 

Which brings me to something I want to discuss that may be a little off the topic but equallt important...  I see a lot of members saying to unmarried boys & girls to "stop masturbating, start praying and GET MARRIED"  I don't think members are thinking clearly when they offer such advise!!  Do you think that these boys & gils can get married overnight?  Absolutely not!!  And what do you senior members suggest these men and women do until they are waiting to get married?  Exactly.... you have no answer! 

In our culture (ISLAM) it is labeled as sinful and this can sometimes lead to guilt of shame.  I too felt this guilt when I was a teenager, then I realized that it was just nonsense and it was all our elders and society itself that what caused the guilt.  At the time I used to live in Lahore and there was really no person to turn to who could answer my questions regarding this.  But when I entered grade 8 (in the American School) it was in our human biology / sex education class then that I understood everything... there was NO reason for any shame; this is part of the natural physiology of the human body.  I am glad they had this class as part of the cirriculam as it helped me avoid sexually transmitted diseases etc.  Yes, I too was a teenager and as much as our elders dont like to hear about it or would not like to believe that "their children" are not like this... I know for a fact that most kids were having casual sex (20 years ago) back when i was in school and they are having it now as well. And most of them are facing a lot of problems due to the lack of proper information as during all this time people have become more closed minded.  I only know a hand full of people who are open minded?  I mean... how would you as a parent react if your teenage son or daughter asked you about having safe sex?

I know that everyone frowns upon masturbation just like everyone frowns upon drinking alcohol in Pakistan, but in reality alcohol flows like the river and is quite eaisily available in most cities... Similarly kids are having sex no matter how much you look the other way.  Whether it is wrong or right or is Islamic or not... that is a separate issue, I really hope that our society accepts this fact of life and deals with it in a mature manner.  If you shun your children and make is so hard to discuss such things, they will turn to their friends for advice... who may not necessarily be the best teachers as they are just students of this themselves.  That is why one ends up with pregnancies and diseases and social issues.

I mean... I have seen a question on this forum where an adult unmarried woman asks a question... "Will I get pregnant if a boy holds my hand?"  Now is that the level of sex education we have in our society.  We tell our women that the man will do what he he wants on the wedding night and he will teach you what is to be done!  Really !!!??? Come on... most men charge like a bull and sexually traumatize a woman at her very first experience and she bleeds and needs stitches in a hospital.  No wonder the new bride is scared of the wedding night as the only knowledge she has is of the horror stories she hears from her friends.  This can really damage her organs is she faces such abuse by her spouse... who doesn't know any better to begin with; especially about foreplay.  Furthermore the husband does SHAK on the wife if she does not bleed or if the hymen is not there.  Such idiots break their marriages because of this and they don't know that the hymen can break due to sports, use of tampons, bike riding, horseback riding and some girls don't even have it since birth.  Similarly the women, ignorant just the same, are worried about hymen restoration where as they should tell their husbands that that is not the proof of being a virgin.  Being a virgin means when a boy or girl has not experienced sexual intercourse and the presence of a hymen is not the final deciding factor in the fate of the girl's character.

There are numerous new topics that should be opened on this site as Noor Clinic seems to be a great platform to educate everyone... I don't know if the moderators or the site owners will allow that.... but until such time, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM BRINGING ISLAM into everything.  Just provide basic to-the-point advise to people without your personal opinions.  This is what we all need to do... and no one really gives attention to the details of the whole nature of sexuality and its pleasures and consequences which result from misinformed youth who have no one to turn to.

I hope this sheds some positive light on to existing old & outdated views... Times have changed!
WEHSHI Group: Members  Joined: 17th Aug, 2010  Topic: 45  Post: 2456  Age:  48  
Posted on:9th Sep 2011, 8:15am
 

marriedguy

ap ne bohat kuch sahi likha hai

lakin aik baat shayed ap bhool gai hain k

ISLAM QAYAMAT TAK K LIYAY HAI

is main ijtehad ho sakt ahai lkain jin baton ko hadees ne direct ya isharatan mana kiya hai un ko halal kerny k liyay nhn balkay qawaneen ko up dat ekernay k liyay

aisa kehtay hain bohat se bhaai k ji alaska main ya un ilaqon main jahan bohat SERDI hoti hai schempein peena jaiz hai as medicin

main HELLSINKI jo k thanda tareen ilaqon main shumar hota hai raha huin lakin kabhi koi aisi cheez as medicine peenay ki zaruret nhn peri

ap k points valid hain lakin ap is bat ko is terah samjhain

jab hum koi new car purchase kertay hain to us ki running puri ki jati hai yani usay low speed aur low weight k sath kuch milage tak drive kiay jata hai

lakin ager hum is bat ki car ena kerain to car k engin ko nuqsan hota hai aur kharabi hoti hai

isi terah Allah ne insan ko bnaya aur yeh hidayet di k jab lerki aur lerka baligh ho jain to un ki shadi kerdo takay woh lust main ghalat kam na kerain

lakin hum maghrib k peechay lag ker is hadees ko bhool gai balkay aik zulam qerar diya

3 KAM MAIN DER NA KERO

1 JAB LEKRI BALIGH HO JAI US KI SHADI KERNAY MAIN

2 JAB NAMAZ KA WAQT HO JAI TO NAMAZ ADA KERNAY MAIN

3 JAB JANAZA TAYAR HO JAI TO USAY DAFNANAY MAIN

last 2 kam to hum ke rhi letay hain lakin pehlay kam ko nhn smajhtay

maghrib main small age marrieg to qanooni tor per mana hai zulam hai lakin small age sex allowed hai us k khilaf koi qanoon nhn

sab k knowledge main ho ga k sab se choti bin biyahi maan UK main hai 8 saal ki

jab hum apni aqalain Allah k ehkamat se beri samjhain gay to woh tamam buraiyan hum aajain gi jin se bachnay k liyay Allah ne yeh ehkamat diyay

log kehtay hain k jab lerka jawan ho to erection bhi hoti hai to kay keray

lakin hadees main hai k ager tumhain lust ziyadah ho to ROZA rakho yeh koi nhn manta

kiun k roza rakhnay se islam nazar aai ga

aur pura din kon bhooka rahay yeh behter nhn k 2 minit zaya kiyay au rsukoon

meri sab se guzarish hai k Quran aur hadees ko batarjuam perhain ap ko 99% masail k hal mil jain gau aur 1 % k na milain to woh Quran ya ahadees k puranay honay ya out dated honay ya time change ki wajah nhn

balkay humari aqal ki kami hai jo hum unahin samajh nhn sakay

ager hum kisi sahi aalim se mashwera kerain gay to insha Allah us 1 % ka bhi pata chal jai ga

humain fakher hai k hum her bat mani her kaam main Allah aur Allah k Nabi SAW k di hui taleemat k mohtaj hain humain kisi maghribi falsfay ya phychology ki zaruret nhn

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