@Mufti Hadith Confirmation (second)
Aaj mein aap k samnay 2 ahadees rakhta hoon jinhain perh ker aap bataye ga k inn 2 mein se kon se hadith sahih hai aur kon se jhooti...
1. Hazrat Jabbar r.a se riwayat hai k hazrat umer ne hazrat abu bakar se kaha: Ay Rasool Kareem saww k baad behtareen shaks,to hazrat abu bakar ne kaha agar tu yeh kehta jo mein ne Aap saww ko fermatay suna hai hai k umer se behtar aadmi per suraj taluh nahi hua. (Tirmizi)
2. Rasool Allah saww ne fermaya: Anbiya o Mursaleen k baad abu bakar se afzal aadmi per suraj taluh nahi hua. (Masnad Abd bin Naeem)
Ab pehli hadith mein kaha gaya hai k hazrat umer se behtar shaks per suraj taluh nahi hua aur dosri hadith mein kaha gaya hai k abu bakar se behtar shaks per suraj taluh nahi hua...
Ab yeh to haqeeqat hai k dono ahadees aapas mein mutazad hain...hum agar pehli hadith ko sahih manein to dosri jhooti hadith jhooti sabit hoti hai aur agar dosri ko sahih maanein to pehli hadith jhooti sabit hoti hai...
Ab aap hi faisala karein k dono mein se kon se hadith sahih hai...
My reply: mufti sahab mera khayal hy k aapny kabhi apni hadees ki kitabon ko nahi dekha . kiun k aap yun aitraaz nahi krty k ek jhuti hogi ek sachi hogi.. apki apni books main bhi mutazaad hadesain hain .. kabhi time mila to aapsy puchon ga k sachi konsi hy jhuti konsi hy .. khair aapny jo pahli hadees ka hawala dia hy jo tirmizi ki hy us hadees ko Imam tirmizi nay khud hi Zaeef Karaar dia hy .. aapny jo dusra hawala dia hy us book ka name to meny kabhi suna hi nahi hy shayad woh koi book ko magar ksi bhi mashoor book main iska name nahi milta lakin yeh hadees Kanzal Ummal main hy magar iski Sanad disconnected hay is liay yeh baat nahi hy k ek Juti ek sahi .. rawion ki chain disconnect hy is liay in alfazon ki garbar ho gae hy...... agar aap Sahi hadees dekhna chahta hain to main yeh baat apko sahi haddes main dikata hun jisa bian krny waly khud Ali ra hain :p
عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ ابْنِالْحَنَفِيَّةِ قَالَ قُلْتُ لأَبِى أَىُّ النَّاسِ خَيْرٌ بَعْدَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ . قُلْتُ ثُمَّ مَنْقَالَ ثُمَّ عُمَرُ . وَخَشِيتُ أَنْ يَقُولَ عُثْمَانُ قُلْتُ ثُمَّ أَنْتَ قَالَ مَا أَنَا إِلاَّ رَجُلٌ مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ . } Ibn Hanafia nay kaha k meny apny walid (Ali ra) say pucha k rasool Allah k baad konsa shaks afzal hay. apny kaha Abu bakar. meny pucha usky baad? aapny kaha phir Umar . mujhy khadsha hua k teesra shaks Usman kahain gain to meny pucha or aap?? aap ny kaha main to ek aam sa banda hun . Sahih al-Bukhary, Hadith Number:3715, Hazrat Ali ra nay farmaya k is umat main rasool saw k baad sub say afzal shaks Abu bakar hain usky baad Umar hain or agar teesray ka name bhi puchty ho to btata hun. Musnad Ahmad 2/185 aesi hi kuch hadeesain Shia kutb main bhi hain jesay قال علي (ع): وكان أفضلهم في الإسلام كما زعمت وأنصحهم لله ولرسوله الخليفة الصديق والخليفة الفاروق ولعمري أن مكانهما في الإسلام لعظيم وإن المصاب بهما لجرح في الإسلام شديد رحمهما الله وجزاهما بأحسن ما عملاً۔ شرح نهج البلاغة ، ابن الميثم البحراني Ali [R.A] said: Caliph (of Rasulullah [S.A.W.W]) Abu Bakr [R.A], was the best of in Islam and was the most well-wisher and faithful to Allah and His Messenger. And his Caliph, Caliph Umar Farooq [R.A] was also like the same (as you understood). I swear by my age, that their status in Islam was such a great. And their death caused Islam, a severe shock. May Allah have mercy upon (both of) them, and give them the best reward for their good deeds. [Sharh Nahj Al Balagha, Ibne Maithum Al Bahrani, 31/486]
قول الإمام تقي: لست بمنكر فضل عمر، لكن أبا بكر أفضل من عمر۔ الاحتجاج الطبرسي ، ص 250۔ Imam taqi nay farmaya k main Umar ki fazilat ka munkir nahi hun magar Abu bakr umar say ziada afzal hain.
حضرت رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ھمیشہ درمیان اصحاب می گفتند ما سبقكم أبو بكر بصوم ولا صلاة ولكن بشیء وقر فی صدره۔ مجالس المومنین (بالفارسية) ، ص 88۔
Rasool saw sahaba ki jamat say farmaya krty thy k Abu bakar ki azmato fazeelat is liay ziada nahi hy k woh namaz parhty hain or rozay rakhty hain balky iski wja who hay jo unky dil main mukhlisi hay.
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