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| H/dr_Qasim |
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| Posted on:26th Mar 2010, 5:28pm |
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 Mard Ya Aurat: Ziada Mazloom Kon?
Essaa mohashiraa jahaa oraat murd k shana ba shaana kaam kur rhi hy waha ziyada muzloom kon hay es thread meah ye dikhna hy.jesaa aj kul media dikhaa raha orat k sath ye ho raha wo ho raha , or essy show kur ray ky saary zolm or ziyadtiyaan orat k sath he ho rahi hen yaa ye koi anookhi mukhlooq hy ky sasry esy ziyadti kurty ary hen jaa buja Tv py debaits ho rhi hen, keya ap ye sumajty hen jo media dikhaa raahaa wesaa he hay jub ky hum muslim hen or muslim mohashiry meh essi batin kis hud tuk such hen,
orat hur ghur meah maa , bhe, bati , wife , or bot say rishto k sath hur ghur meah mojood hay or meah sumajta hon wesaa bilkol ni jesa media paysh kur raha hy, keya murd muzlooom ni hen , keyaa mudo k sath es tura ka zolm or ziyadti ni hoti. aj kul tu batiyaan batoo say ziyada achi ja rhi hen hur madaan meh , indo pak jesa past meh culture ra hy oska ussur tu khutam hony meah time lugy gah he, lakin aj kul star plus apni ruwayit ko zinda b rukhy howy hey jis meah or koi topic he ni essi bato k, any how
ap meri ray say kis hud tuk agree hen or dis agree hen,
keya aj serf orat he muzloom hy,?
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| Diplomate |
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| Posted on:26th Mar 2010, 6:23pm |
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 Re:keya serf orat he muzloom hy?
keya aj serf orat he muzloom hy,?
nahi nahi aysa bilkul nahi hey...bulky aysa to iss forum par b nahi hey..lolzzz
nahi yahan aurtain to mazloom hi nahi hain bulky mard hi becharey mazloom aur bebus hain..
agar daikha jaye to mazloom sirf mard hi hain ...chahey wo kisi forum pr hoon ya real life main...aurtain to hur jaga super hoti hain..unn ki to har koi madad karny dorra chala ata hey aur becharey mard ko to koi helping hand ghaas b nahi dalta
app note kar saktey hain k KATOON ki jama aap ko KHAWATEEN mil jaye gi... q k inn ka to har jaga bool bala hey...Laiken aap buhat mehnat kar k b MARD ki jama nahi bana saktey...aap lakh koshish b karain to aap ko MARD ki jama sirf MARDOOD hi nazar aye gi..:-))))
lehaza main aik mard hotey howey yeh kehny main haq bejanab hoon k khuwateen khuwa kisi b mulik main hoo ...baba yeh sab pr bhari hi hooti hain....kisi ki kia majal inn ki zara b tazheek kar saky...
Baiti ho to Baap py bhari...Behan ho to bhai pr bhari...B.V ho to allah ki panah...shohar bechara to chupta hi phirta hey..:-)...
han aik maan ka rishta aysa hey jahan hum sar tasleem-e-ham kiye baghair nahi reh saktey...main samjhta hoon k aurt ka aik roop jo k sab rishtoon ya aurt k sab roop sy ala-o -arfa hey wo sirf aur sirf maan ka hey...iss sy agey aurt ki tazeem kisi na kisi mufaad ki khatar hi ki jati hey..maan ka rishta wo rishta hey jis ka taqddas aur tazeem mufaad ya kisi lalich ki bina pr nahi kiya ja sakta bulky ...yahan tazeem karny ka khukam hey aur yeh tazeem wajub hey.. ...
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| myrizvi |
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| Posted on:27th Mar 2010, 8:00am |
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aurat vs mard
aik dilchasp baat ki taraf sab ki tawajjah dilana chaahta houN...zara ghaur farmaa.iyyega.... aik general observation hai, exceptions ki baat nahi ki jarahi :) kia aksar aisaa nahi hai k .... 1.aurat jahaaN kaheeN aur jab kabhi rishtouN k bandhan maiN bandhay "mard" (like baap, bhai, husband, beTouN, dewar, etc etc) k 'bil.moqaabil' hoti hai to amooman aisay "mardouN" par zulm hi karti hai aur inhaiN shikashtay faash bhi deti hai. rishtouN k bandhan maiN bandhaa mard aisee aurat k saamnay "hathyaar Daalnay" par majboor hojata hai... Diplomat Bhai nay iss taraf bah khoobi isharah kia hai aur ap 'ghar ghar ki kahani' maiN iski beshomaar misaalaiN pesh karsaktay haiN 2. doosri taraf jab koi aurat 'rishtouN k bandhan say azaad' mard k 'moqaabil aati hai.... like boy-friend, cooleagues, class-mates, paRosi, male-boss, etc etc to aisaa har mard oss aurat par kissi nah kissi andaaz maiN zulm Dhaanay maiN kaamyaab hojataa hai...aur aisay har case maiN aurat looser end pay nazar aati hai... aisaa mard, aurat ki bay-hurmati bhi karta hai, oska jazbaati istehsaal bhi karta hai, ossay bewaqoof banaa kar ossay bazaari jins bhi banaa detaa hai aur agar moqah milay to ossay faraokht bhi kar deta hai now it's upto women k woh rishtouN ki zangeer maiN bandhay mardouN say DEAL karna pasand karti hai k iss zangeer say azaad mardouN say... coz yeh to tay hai k shaah raahay hayaat par chalnay k liyeh ossay laazman bahoot say mardouN say day-to-day deal karnaa hi paRegaa... oskay pass 2 hi options haiN
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| Posted on:27th Mar 2010, 11:27pm |
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 mard vs aurat
i think us shakhs se bara koi zalim nahi jo khud pe zulm honay de :) abb mard bechara aurat k haathon sataya huwa lekin phir bhi aik aurat k zulm se baghawat kar k doosri phir teesri even k cauthi aurat bhi lata hae k usay aurat k haathon zulm pasand hae aur woh sari zindagi is zalim ka aseer rehna chahta hae mazloom ban kar :)
main tou accepty karti hon k aaj kal ki aurat zalim hae lekin mard ne usay majboor kar rakha hae khud pe zulm karnay k liye :)
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| info1234 |
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| Posted on:27th Mar 2010, 2:57pm |
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Nice Topic
hmmmmm bara dilchasp topic hai, magar yeh topic khatam honay wala nahi hia, dono farikon ma se koi bhi haar man nay wala nahi hai :)
jahan tak starplus ka taluk hai woh tau no doubt hmari society ko kharab hi kar raha hai, aik tau inteha darjay glamour dikhaya jata hai, dusri taraf is qadar tension zda life k aurtain mardon par dominent hain, lekin apas ma aik dusray ki dushman, aur sab mard aurton k dushman hain........
jahan tak zulm ki baat hai tau dono apni apni jgah barabar k zimedar hain, is ma koi shak nahi k mardon aur aurton dono par zulm ho raha hai, jahan aurton ko moka milta hai woh mardon k sath ziadti ma koi kasar nahi chorteen, isi tarha mard bhi, lekin jo kuch bhi hai meray khiyal se aurton aur mardon dono par zulm honay k zimedar MARD hain.... kharabi yahan se shuru hoti hai k society k mard aurton ko yeh ehsas dilatay hain k woh ziada strong hain, ziada intelligent aur authoratative hain aur aurtain un k mukablay ma kuch nahi hian, tau reaction k tor par aurton ma aik jazba peda hota hai k ham kisi se kam nahi ham bhi sab kuch kar sakti hain, lehaza woh har kaam ma mardon se agay nikalnay aur unhay neecha dikhanay main lag gai hain, dusri taraf aurton k zehnon ma yeh baat bitha di gai hai k mard hai hi zalim aur aurat ko ghulam bana kar rakhta hai, lehaza ajkal ka sab literature aurton ko "azadi" k sabak parha raha hai jis wja se ajkal ki aurtain mardon ko dekhti hi us nazar se hain k jesay hi inhay moka milay ga ham par zulm karain gy lehaza pehlay se hi "qabu" kar lo....... bas yehi tamasha apko har jga nazar aey ga, k aurtain mardon ko apnay se neecha dekhna chahti hain, mard bajaey apni halat darust karnay k aurton se jang ma masruf hain, aur jalti par tail ka kaam karnay walay hmaray dushman non muslims jo koi kasar nahi chortay fasad dalwanay k liay
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| myrizvi |
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| Posted on:27th Mar 2010, 4:31pm |
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info1234 apka yeh kahna durust hai k yeh topic khatam honay wala nahi hai... nah hi iss qism k forum pay iss qism ki debate ka koi "nateejah' bar.aamad hota hai... yeh koi "monaazirah" bhi nahi iss bahas say koi 'fareeq' jeet jaa.ay aur koi haar jaa.ay... phir iss qism ki bahas start hi kiyouN ki jaati hai??? kia aisee bahsoun ka koi masraf nahi hotaa??? meri naaqis roy maiN aisee bahsaiN....
1. zehnoun k band dareechay waa karti haiN
2.mukhtaliful-khayaal araa aik plate form pay 'yakjaa' hoti haiN aur readers /participants ko apnay khayaal k bar.aks khayaalaat say aagahi hoti hai.
3. dounoun "fareeqain" k kamzore point of view 'wazah" hojatay hain... khaah "motaaserah fareeq" iska etraaf karay yaa nah karay, woh apnay 'kamzore pahloo" say agaah hokar 'mohtaat' hojata hai.
4. chounkay dounoun fareeq aik doosray ki 'kamzoriyouN" say bakhoobi agaah hojatay haiN, lehaza inn main aik doosray ko onki khoobiyouN+khamiyouN samait "accept" karlenay maiN hi 'aafiyat' nazar aati hai.
5. go kay nisbatan low-zehni satah k afraad k liyeh "aagahi" kissi azaab say kam nahi hoti......... taaham "aagahi-ka-ye-azaab" ... onhain aik baray azaab say bachaa letaa hai... jo adam aagahi ki soorat main onn par naazil hosaktaa hai
6. iss qism ki 'debate' maiN log khul kar apnay 'manfi-jazbaat' ka izhaar bhi kar letay hain iss tarah onkay ander maujood manfi-jazbaat ki "nikaasi" ki raah hamwaar hoti hai aur woh iskay baad kissi qadar "halkay phulkay" hojatay hain :)
meray khayaal say different issues par iss qism ki open guftagoo k yeh haaselaat bhi kuch kam nahi... bah shartekay hum 2+2=4 ki tarah k kissi mathemetical result ki tawaqqah nah kar baiThaiN aisee bahsoun say...
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| H/dr_Qasim |
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Aurat Ya Mard : Iss Muashrey Main Ziyada Mazloom Kon Hey.?
Meah sumajta hoon humari es indo pak kay Mohaashary meah orut he sub say buri doshmun hay orut ki khod or jitny zolm ziyaadtiyaa ghur orat py hoti hen tu danistaa ghyr danistaata os ky pechy haath b orat ka hota hy, murd tu maa bhen bati bevi en sub rishtoo meh but k reh jata hy ek razi dosra khufa. or wo kehty hen na ky hur murd ki kamyaabi ky pechy orat ka hath hotaa hy tu murd ki burbadi ky pechy kis ka hath hota hy?
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| DARISHA15 |
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| Posted on:27th Mar 2010, 7:34pm |
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Aurat Ya Mard : Iss Muashrey Main Ziyada Mazloom Kon Hey.?
yeh aik natural bat hai kay orat orat ki favour karay gi or mard mard ki lakin agar hum neutral ho kur sochain to donon hi mazloom hotay hain ya families pur depend kurta hai kahin mard zaida mazloom hotay hain or kahin ortain....or kahin koi bhi nahi pk main zaida tur khawateen housewife hoti hain or mard hazrat pur ghar chalanay ki resposibility zaida hoti hai to mard iss lehaz say mazloom huay kay 1 to wo sara din kay kam say thuk kar atay hain phir unhay ghar kay liyey ashiya waghara bhi lani hoti hain family ko bhi outing pur laikur jana hai baz wives thori sakht mijaz ki bhi hoti hain jo bilkul circumstances ko understand nahi kurtin bus samajhti hain jo hum nay keh diya wo poora hona chaiyeh jubkay orat iss lehaz say mazloom hai kay hamari man dominant society or husband jo bhi kehay wohi kurna hota hai yehi parents kehtay hain kay husband ki hur bat mano or baz husbands aisay hotay hain wo wife ko wife nahin bulkay aik maid samajhtay hain or hur kam unhi say kurwatay hain baz families main khana bhi bunta to mard ki pasand ka kahin jana ho to bhi husband ji aiengay to le kur jaieyngay dekha jaiey to dono hi kisi na kisi tarah say mazloom hotay hain dono ki different duties hoti hain baz kam aisay hotay hain jo sirf ortain hi kur sakti hain or mard nahi or baz kam sirf mard kursaktay hain ortain nahin lakin aik bat hai wo yeh kay koi bhi society chahay eastern western agar aik larki agar bahir jaey to mard koi na koi awaz zaroor kustay hain jubkay ortain aisi koiharqat nahi kurtin dekha jaiey to man hi dominant hota hai zaida cheezon main conclusion yeh hai koi kisi ko superior inferior na samjhay bulkay dono equal samjhain aik doosray ko kabhi aik apni bat munwaey or kubhi doosra baz cheezain aisi hoti hain jis main mard ko bilkul interfere nahi kurna chaiyey or baz mardon kay mamlat main orton ko interfere nahi kurna chaiyey...bus filhal to mujhay itna hi puta hai aplogon ki opinion iss say different bhi hosakti hai...
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| H/dr_Qasim |
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| Posted on:27th Mar 2010, 7:42pm |
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Aurat Ya Mard : Iss Muashrey Main Ziyada Mazloom Kon Hey.?
saas bahooo ki un bun meah Husband khoob pistaa hy , assul meah main wajaa islam say doori hy, mohabat ki kumi hy , mohabat , esaaar , humdurdi essi chezin hen jo rishtoo ko apus mea jorti hen or jahaa jahaa en chezo ki kumi ati hy waha rishto meah durraarin purti hen
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| DARISHA15 |
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| Posted on:27th Mar 2010, 8:03pm |
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re:
sas bahoo ki unbun husband ki kotahi ki wajah say hi hoti hai husband sahib balance nahi kur patay dono kay durmiyan or dono main say kisi aik ko zaida tym dey datay hain shayd newly married couples main amooman wife ko to jis say maa(mother) samajhti hain kay pehlay to mera baita aisa nahi tha yeh sub bahoo kay anay say hua hai jabkay meray khayal main zaida kusoor husband ka hi hota hai agar husband hi balance kur kay chalain to na sas bahoo ki larai ho or nahi husband beech main pissain or maa or wife ko bhi realize kurna chaiyey maa ko samajhna chaiyey kay newly wed hain to unhain aik doosray ko samajhna hai or wife ko ehsas hona chaiyey kay apnay husband say kehay kay apni mother ko bhi tym dain aik waqt wo khud bhi issi position main hogi.....
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| pprinces43 |
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| Posted on:27th Mar 2010, 8:41pm |
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kon mazloom
ye kahna asan nhi lakin aik bat he her jaga orat ki ho sab kuch sahna parhta he aik orat hi gher ko jannat bnati he her jaga orat ko hi bardasht karna parhta he ap ye na samjiy ga aik me aik orat ho kar orat ka hi sath don gi wo is lie ke me janti hon aik orat ko kin kin mushkalat se guzrna perta he jab aik orat shadi ke bad ger chor kar ati he towo boht narvas hoti he jany wo kis tarah sab kuch ache tarike se kare gi boht mushkalat ka samna hota he uska lakin wo sabar se kam leti he ager is ki jaga aik merd ko in mushkalat ka samna karna pare to sab chor ker chala jay jitna sabar aorat me he merd me nahi or na hi ho sakta he iske ilawa aik larki jab gher se baher nikalti he sab jante hen unhe kin nazro se dekha jata he ager sab ye samaj le ke hmare ger b maa bahan beti he to gandi nazro se dekhna chor de wo ye samajne ki koshish nhi karte wo kitna majboor ho kar gher se nikli he jaha bhi dekh len her jaga aoter ka faida uthany ki koshish kia jata he me bas itna kaho gi ager merd orat aik dosre ko izzat ki nigah se dekhe to sab ko khushia hi mile gi or ye sahi he aik orat hi merd ki kamiyabi ke peche hoti he usi ki waja se hi gher jannat jasa banta he ager kisi ghar me koi prb ho to sas baho me na banti ho to husband ka hi farz hota he wo sab ko sath sath le kar chaly sab ko ache tarike se samjay or yahi koshish honi chahiy ke dono aik dosre ki maan kar chaly ager orat ko sab samaj jay to dunnia me kabhi koi aik dosre ko necha na dikhay ALLAH sab ko tufeeq de balke sari dunnia ko ke aik dosre ki izzar kare or izzat ki nigah se dekhy Ameen.
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| Posted on:28th Mar 2010, 12:33pm |
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ziada mazloom kon
mard bechara hai hi mazloom...........:) kio k jb ek mard ki zindgi me aurat ati hai to wo hudko mazloom samjhne lgta hai........lols baat darasal ye hai k dono hi mazloom hoty he laikin inko alg alg situation ka samna krna perta hai mard ko ghr se ziada ghr se bahar mushkilaat ka samna krna perta hai khas k shadi k bad usko apni zimedario ka ehsaas hota hai aur wo upset hojata hai...........aur aurat ko ghr me reh kr hi mushkalat ka samna krna perta hai k jb susral wale uski ezat nhi krty usko ghr ka frd nhi samjhty to wo ziada hassa hojati hai wo susral me ate hi husband k parents ko ami ami abu abu kehne lgjati hai mgr saas susar usy kbhi apni beti jaise aziz nhi samjhty he na hi uski qadar krty he........ulta tanz krty he jisse bahu k dil me unki wo qadar nhi rehti hai aur ek baat to saaf hai k agr bv parents ki ezat nhi kre gi to husband k dil me uski wo qadar nhi rhy gi aur agr parents bahu ko acha nhi samjhy gy to bete k dil me wo ezat nhi rhy gi........ baat horhi hai mard ka maa aur bv k drmian pisne ki to ye totally mard per depend krta hai k wo is baat ko samjhy k kon sahi kon ghlt hai wo bv ko to dant b laita hai mgr parents ko kuch b nhi kahta hai hamoshi ehtiyaar kr laita hai aur phir ye hamoshi rishto me doori ka sabab bnti hai aur ek dosre ki wo qadar b nhi reti hai jaisi pehle thi..............
isliye mard hazrat ko chhye k ya to shadi hi nhi kre khas k jb wo ye jante hok unki mother unko kisi se share nhi krsakti hai.............kio k bht si saase kehti he k bahu ne ate hi hmara beta chin lia hai..........ye whi saase kehti he jinho ne kbhi hud kisi ka beta chinaa hota aur aj wo bahu ka susar kehlata.........
isliye me ye manti hu k mard mazloom hota hai kio k ek trf maa b usse badguman hokr sochti hai k chin gya mera beta dosri trf bv se sharminda hota k mere parents aise he...........result wo sochta me kitna mazloom hu mera kia kasoor..........:))
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| Posted on:28th Mar 2010, 2:00pm |
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mard shadi hi nah karay:) mardouN ko mazloomiat say bachnay ka aik hull yeh bhi hai lol
hasna ... by da way aurtaiN to shadi karsakti haiN naa ... coz onhaiN to biwi-maaN k beech pisnay walaa yeh khalisatan 'mardana-maslah' darpaish nahi hotaa naa :) |
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| Posted on:28th Mar 2010, 4:22pm |
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mard mazloom hi hota......:)) baat to apne bilkul theek ki hai...........mgr mene un mardo k liye kha haa jinko mazlomiyat ka shikaar hone ka htra rehta hai.................heheheheshadi ek aisa lado hai jo khaye pachtaye jo na khaye wo b pachtaye................lols
aur jb tk mard ki shadi nhi hoti wo kehta hai me bht azad hu shadi hone ki dair hai wo samjhta hai k me qaid me hu...............
aurto ko jo masayal hoty he wo mardo ko nhi.............jb b koi bv husband se jghrti haina to bv kehti hai kash ap meri jaga hoty.............to husband mazloom surat bna kr kehta hai.........................KAAAAAAAAAAAASH.................lols
mene to btaya apne girdo nawa k experiance abhi apky ird gird kia hota u know better than me |
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| Posted on:28th Mar 2010, 4:40pm |
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re husna ji me apki bat ko sahi kaho gi jin mushkalat ka samna aorat krti he merd nahi kar sakta
us me sabar nahi he isi lie to jannat maa ke kadmo ke niche btai gai he qk wohi he jo sab kuch bardasht krti he phir bi sab ko yahi zaher kerti hen wo khush he
kabhi apne maa baap ko ye ahsas nahi dilati ke wo khush nhi he ager ye mushkalat merd berdasht kare to kia hi acha ho or wo jan le her jaga orat hi q zulm sahe yaha ye kaho gi dono merd orat ko mil ker chalna chahiy dono aik dosre ki khushi ho ya gam sath den to dekhy zindagi kitni asaan ho jay gi or ALLAH ki ibadat kare ALLAH sab ko hadyait de Ameen merd orat dono ko balke sari dunnia ko. |
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