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irfanraza
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Group: Members Joined: 12th Nov, 2008 Topic: 0 Post: 9 Age:
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| Posted on:16th Nov 2008, 6:31pm |
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 hmmmm
jahalat ki intehah kar kisi irfan nami jahil shaks ne main kia kahn mere pas alfaz nahin hai jahalat ku describe karne k.
Mr.boby12 mein sadqay jao tum per aur tumharay comments per, han agar tum logo mein bacha maa ka maslak rakhta hai tu ye nayee baat hai. aur jahan tak tum ne mujay jahil shaka kaha, i think u the worst pathatic and fateous one who again support it own maslak guy, dear u r not supposed to call dear, as far as u need some evidences from someone a guy about ur surity of muslim, then u will get mr.boby??????.................................................................whoever u r? not matters.
Mr.admin kindly a request, here question is not that someone is trying to crear sectarian issue, but some are trying i think and this guy is one of them.
there must be a ban over such stupid ones, and plzzz pyara kia sunni logo mein larkia mar gayee hein kia jooo aap k dost koo shia larki se shadi karni hai, shit on u and ur frnd also.
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irfanraza
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Group: Members Joined: 12th Nov, 2008 Topic: 0 Post: 9 Age:
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| Posted on:16th Nov 2008, 6:50pm |
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mr.boby 12 agar tumhe matlab pata chal hi gaya hai unagree ka tu dic per janay ki zaroorat nahe, aur tumharay jaisay insan k lea authentic words are not necessary.
never ever try to give any comments over saudi people ok, i know how much iran in water,ok, in limit u must remain. dont ever use dustbin language, becuase how much iran is parsa all muslims know better.
soon u will get proofs here in this forum about ur status of being ????????
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Firdaus
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Group: Members Joined: 27th Sep, 2008 Topic: 1 Post: 42 Age:
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| Posted on:16th Nov 2008, 7:55pm |
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can do yes can do i think |
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Piyara
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Group: Members Joined: 21st Sep, 2008 Topic: 10 Post: 71 Age:
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| Posted on:16th Nov 2008, 11:07pm |
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re boby12,irfan,sunehri I need your help yaar! lakin tum log to aapes main hi jhagarne lagay ho. plz give me your own pure and clear comments about my topic instead of critisic eath other. plz you help my freind everyone have right to write own thoughts so plz dont critisic each other,
THANKS
ALLAH HAFIZ |
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Piyara
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Group: Members Joined: 21st Sep, 2008 Topic: 10 Post: 71 Age:
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| Posted on:16th Nov 2008, 11:10pm |
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re myrizvi Thanks freind u tell me main diffrencess between shia and sunni. |
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Piyara
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Group: Members Joined: 21st Sep, 2008 Topic: 10 Post: 71 Age:
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| Posted on:16th Nov 2008, 11:24pm |
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re myrizvi Thanks freind u tell me main diffrencess between shia and sunni. |
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Piyara
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Group: Members Joined: 21st Sep, 2008 Topic: 10 Post: 71 Age:
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| Posted on:16th Nov 2008, 11:33pm |
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My freind decision Mere freind ne us larki se iss topic per baat ki hai. woh keti hai k woh shia rehna pasand kare gi but haan na to woh kabhi peetay gi(maatam kare gi) jo bay col us larki k pehlay b nhi peeteti. or jo aulaad ho gi us ko koi aitraaz nhi k bachay sunni hon. or na hi wo bachon ko shia maslak ki tarbiyet de gi.
BUT jab maine aap sab k comments read kiye to majority ki ye raaye hai k mere freind ko us se shadi nhi kerni chahiye bcoz is baat ki koi guarantee nhi k shadi k baad wo apni baat per gaaeem rahe or bachon ko b shia maslak se door rakhay.
IS IT TRUE? plz give me your final and clear opinion all of noorclinic freinds
ALLAH HAFIZ |
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System
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Group: Members Joined: 03rd Jun, 2008 Topic: 40 Post: 2285 Age:
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| Posted on:17th Nov 2008, 2:15am |
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 Piyara
shadi to ho sakti hai. But buhat mushkilat hain.. aur app ne kaha ke larki shia rehna chahti hai.. to yahan per gerber hai... Larki should become sunni before marriage aur elan kare apne sunni hone ke .. larki ko knowledge dia jai sunni maslac ka... aur apni marzi, Research aur haqeeqat ko man kar sunni ho.. larki apne ghar walon ko btai ke woh sunni ho chuki hai.. then there is no problem.. Agar yeah sab mumkin naheen to mera mashwra hai ke shadi na ki jai... |
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raazdaar
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Group: Members Joined: 18th Nov, 2007 Topic: 38 Post: 370 Age:
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| Posted on:17th Nov 2008, 4:41am |
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 Well Said System.......
SALLAM TO ALL FRIENDS System bhayee nai bilkul teeq kaha hai. Q kai khabi khabi aisai ristai shadi kai baad muskilaat pai pas jatain hain. Agar deen aik maslak aik ho to koyee bi mushkil nahin ho sakti. Larki nai yai to kaha hai kai wo shia hi rahaigi lakin shadi kai baad kya kya ho sakta hai iska ALLAH ko pata hai. Bohat kam chance hota hai kai aisai ristai khushi sai qaim rehtain hain. Q kai in ki is zindagi ka in ki aulaad pai bi asar par sakta hai. Aur shayed aulaad honai sai in main faslai aur bi bar jayee. Q kai jab bachai hongai to wo is hairani main hongai kai maa dosri taraf hai aur baap dosri taraf hai. Un kai liyai yai aik tension ban sakti hai. Q kai bacho ka to maa aur baap dono kai saat rehna hota hai. Akhir main main bi wahi baat kahonga kai larki ko sunni ban kar dil sai isai qabool karna chahiyai. Agar aisi sorat na hoo to shadi na ki jayee to behtar hai.Q kai larkai ko khud soochna chahiyai kai usai sirf shadi sai matlab hai kai usai seedai rah pai lanai sai. Har insaan zehan rakta hai sooch rakta hai aur apna bora bala khud janta hai. ALLAH hamain shaitaan ki reh sai door karain aur naiki karnai ki tofeeq dai AMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN NOTE:-sorry if my words hurt anyone. TAKE CARE ALLAH HAFIZ |
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irfanraza
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Group: Members Joined: 12th Nov, 2008 Topic: 0 Post: 9 Age:
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| Posted on:17th Nov 2008, 6:22am |
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Dear Pyara u just think with ur mind, marriage is not just for a day, it is not only a relation between wife and husband, it is relation of two families, ok if u she decided that she will force her childs to be part of sunni maslak and she will still remain part of shia maslak,what the hell ur freinds are trying to do? life is not a game to whom they are playing?what type of life both will spend? sorry to say dear this relation is truelly a relation that is no present, and no future.
here we are talking only about ur friends, are there families agree, will both families allow them to marry?
dooor k dhool suhanay, pass jao tu apnay hi kaan phat tay hein,
so my view is that it shud not happen, becuase rite now what they are thinking will be changed as well as the days will spend.
take decision with sensibility, with view all of there family members, because both have to live with there families, not alone having bycott of them, so take any step with view of parents .
I think this is basically no issue, every sunni must marry in sunni, and shia in shia, so no any other view over that.
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DicTaToR
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Group: Members Joined: 06th Nov, 2008 Topic: 3 Post: 27 Age:
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| Posted on:17th Nov 2008, 2:05pm |
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 ZulfiQaR Ali BhuTTo
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shizi
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Group: Members Joined: 23rd Mar, 2008 Topic: 13 Post: 288 Age:
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| Posted on:17th Nov 2008, 2:57pm |
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 re
Stop dis firqa bazi... All are muslims... Can marry her... |
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Adam
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Group: Members Joined: 22nd Oct, 2008 Topic: 8 Post: 44 Age:
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| Posted on:17th Nov 2008, 3:25pm |
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 Truth
Asalam aliekum!
I have read a lot of scrap on the topic.
Truth is most of this was human created scrap without any authenticity.
Either one is muslim or not. I know it might b hard for some members to realize.... but truth is there is no place or teaching in Islam about practicing Firka.
And a muslim boy can marry another muslim girl.
I humbly request here to other muslims that they should stop following this firka-baazi scrap and follow the Quran. And also please teach others to do so.
Quran says: "Wa laa taffarra ku"
Jazaak Allah! |
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Piyara
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Group: Members Joined: 21st Sep, 2008 Topic: 10 Post: 71 Age:
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| Posted on:18th Nov 2008, 4:39pm |
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re TO ALL. Ager woh mere freind se promise kare k shadi k baad woh sunni ho jaye gi. kia woh us per yakeen ker lay or shadi ker lay?
must reply waiting
ALLAH HAFIZ |
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Adam
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Group: Members Joined: 22nd Oct, 2008 Topic: 8 Post: 44 Age:
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| Posted on:18th Nov 2008, 7:57pm |
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Reply to ur question Please ask ur friend to b a muslim and let her b a muslim,,, and avoid firka-ism!
Allah-o-Aalim |
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Firdaus
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Group: Members Joined: 27th Sep, 2008 Topic: 1 Post: 42 Age:
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| Posted on:18th Nov 2008, 9:42pm |
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piyara yahan aik post nazar sey guzri thi
keh aik Qari sahib ney apni aik aik talab ilm larhki
kay saath............................
us hisaab sey shia sunni wala amal itna bura nahi
muslim girls going marry with hindu sikh english
and and ............................
does,nt metter not v bad thing
according to reality of present |
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Firdaus
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Group: Members Joined: 27th Sep, 2008 Topic: 1 Post: 42 Age:
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| Posted on:18th Nov 2008, 9:44pm |
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shizi not bad all but good or bad person available everwhere |
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ikram100
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Group: Members Joined: 19th Nov, 2008 Topic: 0 Post: 17 Age:
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| Posted on:19th Nov 2008, 12:56am |
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A muslim can marry any ehl-e-kitaab Hello!
I am a casual reader of this forum, but never joined it, but this thread tempted me to join it, really.
First of all - It is cleared in Noble Quran that a Muslim can marry any ehl-e-kitaab; this even includes Jews and Christians!
A pupil or a group has no right to call someone a non-muslim, if the person himself claims himself as a muslim.
There is no concept of Firqa in Islam.
I don't know why we, Muslims, give so much attention to what the people of Saudi Arab has to say - I mean come on, they're not appointed by Allah Almighty, himself. So why one has to listen to the stuff they come up with. Just listen, and if you feel they're right then it's up to you, but you guys mustn't assume that "that" particular person is saying the right thing!
After reading all the posts of this topic, thoroughly.. I'm wondering... Are we really that Ignorant?
Now let's get to the topic of children - Religion is not something that comes by birth! A child is born masoom, clean from all filth and dirt. Why do we think that relegion passes on from blood to blood. I'm really sad by the thought that most of the muslims, doesn't even know what the defination of a Muslim is.
When a person grows up, he has a mind of it's own. Allah has given him the ability to think and to educate himself, and let him choose himself between what's good and what's wrong. You can't IMPOSE relegion on your child. A person emrases a relegion whole-heartidly.
It's very sad that the parents of our country have very little knowledge about our relegion. In our country, relegion is most probably inherited, due to lack of relegious education.
Let's come to the point of the conversion of girl - Why would you force her to convert. If you force her to convert, do you really think she will?
What if she asks your friend to convert? Will he convert for her love?
Apparently, NO. Then why does he or may I phrase "Who the hell is he" to convert her. That's what disgusts me a lot!
One of my dear fellow member pointed out the Imams Shia People have - I've met a lot of Shia's and asked them on a countless times, and they've been able to give me satisfactory answers. The Imamat system is much more like the Khilafat System. Like Sunni people priase Hazrat Umer, Hazrat Usman, Hazrat Abu Bakar and Hazrat Ali. Shia people praise the Imams for their deeds and heridity. The Shia Imams, as very well known by all of you, were/are the decendents of Hazrat Mohammad S.A.W. When the Khilafat System came to an end with Hazrat Ali's Shahadat, it was time for some one to maintain peace and order within the Muslim Community. Whome do you think was the most suitable candidate for doing it than Prophets own beloved Grandson?
If Imam Hussain had not sacrificed his family for Islam, then we all must agree that the Islam would have had perished! But Allah Almighty chose Islam as his last and compelte relegion, hence, he sent Imam Hussain to save his beloved relegion. If we go through the history of each and every Imam, we'll come to know the attempts they always made to save Allah's relegion.
So friend, tell your friend not to indulge himself into this firkaism, in the last it's our own deeds that'll lead them to either Jannat or Dosakh.
There's no space for Firka Bazi in Quran, I a would refraim you from going into this useless stuff.
Just try to be a good person first, then you'll see how good of a muslim you are.
Peace -
Jazaq Allah!
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raazdaar
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Group: Members Joined: 18th Nov, 2007 Topic: 38 Post: 370 Age:
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| Posted on:19th Nov 2008, 5:15am |
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Agar Chai Aisa Ho To........ SALLAM TO ALL FRIENDS Piyara:- Jaisa kai app nai kaha kai larki sunni banai ko tayar hai aur yai kehti bi hai kai sunni ban jayegi to fir uski baton par yaqeen kar laina chahiyai. Lakin us larkai ko is baat par poti tawajo daini hogi. Maira matlab yai hai kai us larki ko yai yaqeen dihani bi karni hogi kai wo abb shia nahin rahi.Q kai wo rista nahin jiski bunyaad jhoot sai raki jayee. Aur mashahALLAH app muj sai behtar jantain hain main kya kehna chahta hon. ikram100:- I want to clear u one thing. Ya shia people exept of "YA ALLAH MADAD" says "Ya Ali Madad". I think so this is also a big sin. Bcoz ALLAH is the one who have created all the world,all the humans and every thing in this world. Figuring ALLAH with an Human does't suits with any person. We all muslims bileave that ALLAH is one and no one exept ALLAH can be worshiped. Niether of his creations. Hope that u understood what i mean.GOD BLESS U.... Yahan kuch members aisain hai jo kai bin sochai bin janai apni dil ki baat ko samnai lakai usi par yaqeen kartai hain. Jaisa kai aik naya member ikram100. In ki post kai mutabiq kisi bachai ka apnai maa baap kai deen kai saat taluq nahin hota agar chai aisa hota to har insaan apni marzi sai aik deen ko chunta. Yahan mujai dr.zakir naik ki baat yaad ati hai. Unhon nai kaha ta kai "main tom sab ko force nahin karta kai tom ISLAM ki taraf awo. Lakin itna zaroor kahonga kai apnai samnai in sari kitabon ko rak kai in main sai aik achi ko chuno. Aur mujai pora barosa hai kai QUR'AN hi apkai dil main jaga banayegi". Yahan matlab saaf hai kai ham maa baap sai kisi deen ki taraf atain hain warna agar aisi baat hoti to ham main kam hi aisai loog hotain jo kai non-muslims hotai baki sab musalman hotai. Yai relation maa baap sai hi bachai main ata hai. Jab bacha faida hota hai to wo aik faislai ki maur pai hota hai. Aur wo faisla maa baap hi usai sunatain hain. Samaj na samaj ki baat uskai barain honai sai us main ati hai.Umeed hai mairi baat app sab ko samaj agaye hongi.ALLAH hamain borayee sai bachayee aur apnai naik bandon ki list main shamil karai.AMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN....... NOTE:-sorry if my words hurt anyone. TAKE CARE ALLAH HAFIZ |
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ikram100
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Group: Members Joined: 19th Nov, 2008 Topic: 0 Post: 17 Age:
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| Posted on:19th Nov 2008, 9:18am |
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raazdaar bhai You say that Shia people say "Ya Ali Madad", instead of "Ya Allah Madad"...
According to the history (at least shia's history). During the battle of khyber, Muslims were facing defeat, Hazrat Ali was back in madeena, stationed by Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.), himself for the protction of people.... Any how, the muslims were facing defeat. And then Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.W.) read nad-e-Ali, which he seeked for his help, He came from Madeena and helped them win the Battle. So the point I'm surpressing is If Prophet himself asks for his help, then why can't a normal regular person? And who said Shia people don't say "Ya Allah Madad" . Agar bhai aisi baat hoti, tou Shia log Namaz Hazrat Ali ki mazaar kay janib rukh kar kay parhtey, Aur Haj bhi waheen ja kay kartey. They are not doing ship, what-so-ever. In naat, we seek for Hazrat Muhammads Help, don't we? So if we can ask for his help, then why can't a person ask for Hazrat Ali's? Think and bring sense to it.
Aap ney baat ki Ma Baap ki - K bachey wohee deeen wirasat main milti hai. Tubh to non-muslims logon ki koi ghalti na hoi, kyoun k Khuda nay unko un gharano main paida kiya hai, tou yeh tou NauzbiAllah Allah ki ghalti hai kya?
Nahi! Insaan apna deen khud chunta hai, us main khud itni samajh Allah ney dee hai kay wo behtar deen ko chuney.
Hum sirf khuskismat log hain k hamain musalman gharano main paida kiya gaya.
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