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| aliakbar17 |
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| Posted on:29th Jul 2010, 4:26pm |
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 zra is ka bee jawab dain
All Muslims are aware of the prophetic traditions according to which one that hates or fights Ali
bin Abi Talib [as] is hypocrite and Kaafir. Keeping this in mind let us present the testimony of
the Imam of the Salafies Ibn Tamiyah that in effect places the majority of the Sahaba and
Tabayeen (who they describe as the ‘Salaf Saliheen’) were hypocrites and infidels. Ibn Tamiyah
wrote:
و لم يكن كذلك علي فان كثيرا من الصحابة و التابعين كانوا يبغضونه و يسبونه و يقاتلونه
"Verily plenty of Sahaba and Tabayeen used to hate, abuse and fight against Ali."
M inhaj al Sunnah, Volume 7, page 137-138 |
| aliakbar17 |
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umais
Imam of Nawasib Ibn Tamiyah satated in his book Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 4 page 316:
ولم يكن في الخروج ل مصلحة دين ول مصلحة دنيا
"There wasn’t any benefit either for religion or for life in his (Hussain's) rebellion".
zra umais sahib is baat ka jawab dai |
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| Posted on:29th Jul 2010, 8:05pm |
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 Nach na jany angun terra.....
umais said :-"sub se pehle to ap shia ki history parhen k un k nazdiq kia haram hai or kia halal"
meri maloomat k mutabib shia sect haram-e-Muhammad (s.a.a.w) ko haram hi samjty , kehty aur manty hain ...aur halal-e-Muhammad (s.a.a.w) ko halal hi samjty , kehty aur manty hain..
matlab yeh k jo jo cheez bani-e-shriyat (s.a.a.w) ny haram qarar di hey wo aaj tak haram hey aur ta qiyam-e-qiyamat haram hi rehy gi ..aur jo jo cheez aap sarkar (s.a.a.w) ny halal qarar di hey wo aaj tak halal hey aur ta qiyam-e-qiyamat halal hi rehy gi inn main kabi raddo-o-badal nahi ho sakta ..aur aysa hi shia sect ka man'na hey.
umais ..main ny aap sy aik question kiya tha aap ny uss ka answer nahi kiya hey main dobara aap sy wohi swal karta hoon k btaien k "shia" aur "sunni" words ka tarjma kia hey?? |
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| Posted on:30th Jul 2010, 12:04am |
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umais bhai.... sahih bukhari meiN mazkoor hai k qayamat k din kai ashaab e rasool (saww) unn se door kar diye jaeiN ge , (waasil e jahannum hoN ge) aur rasool e akram (saww) hoz e koser se har kisi ko jaam deiN ge lekin unn ko nahiN.
lehaza tamam ashaab ko janati aur pakeeza qarar dena durust nahiN balkeh sahih bukhaari k bhi khilaaf hai , ab ye to khuda behtar janta hai k wo kin ashaab ko waasil e jahannum karey ga , lekin hoN ge zaroor ... kyuN keh sahih bukhaari meiN aya hai :) |
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| Posted on:31st Jul 2010, 2:15am |
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aray bhaio
me koi aalim to hoon nahi or na mujhe is book k baray me knowledge hai jis ka ap ne refrence diya hai. ho sakta hai ye bhi kisi shia ne likhi ho..
magar me un sahaba ki baat kar raha hoon jin ko dunya me jannat ki basharat de di gai hai .. or un k khilaf koi galati ka wehm karna bhi me gunah samjahta hoon..
or un ka name hai Hazrat abu bakar siddique(r) Hazrat Umer(r) Harzar Usmaan(r)
in k baray me shia hazrat k views sunn len or khud faisla kar lain..
k shia..edited...hain ya nahi
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| aliakbar17 |
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| Posted on:31st Jul 2010, 9:25am |
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umais
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| Posted on:31st Jul 2010, 9:28am |
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zra is ka bee jawab dain
All Muslims are aware of the prophetic traditions according to which one that hates or fights Ali
bin Abi Talib [as] is hypocrite and Kaafir. Keeping this in mind let us present the testimony of
the Imam of the Salafies Ibn Tamiyah that in effect places the majority of the Sahaba and
Tabayeen (who they describe as the ‘Salaf Saliheen’) were hypocrites and infidels. Ibn Tamiyah
wrote:
و لم يكن كذلك علي فان كثيرا من الصحابة و التابعين كانوا يبغضونه و يسبونه و يقاتلونه
"Verily plenty of Sahaba and Tabayeen used to hate, abuse and fight against Ali."
M inhaj al Sunnah, Volume 7, page 137-138 |
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| Posted on:31st Jul 2010, 9:30am |
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dunya main sirf husnain as ko jannat kay nojwanan ka sardar kaha gia hay or janabe fatima salam ulaah alaiha ko khatoonay jannat kaha gi hay or sirf 5 afrad ko panjtun pak kaha gia hay |
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| Posted on:31st Jul 2010, 10:01am |
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umais is using slanderer street language
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| umais |
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| Posted on:31st Jul 2010, 6:48pm |
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ali akbar
bilkul theek hai panjtan pak hamari sir aankhon per. magar jo martaba Hazrat abu bakar (r) Hazrat Umer Hazrat usman ghani ka hai. wo yahan per alfaazon se bayan nahi ho sakta.. itna bulun-o-bala martaba hai k tumhari soch kia tumhari jesi hazaron mind aik jaga hojayen tab bhi andaza nahi lagaya ja sakta hai..
is qadar azeem shan hai in ashaab ki samjhay janab.. Nabi pak ne farmaya k agar mere baad koi nabi hota to wo Umer(r) hotay..
or shia hazrat k views dekhie Hazrat umer k baray me..
to khud bhi yehi kaho gay ...edited.. shia ...edited..
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| Posted on:31st Jul 2010, 7:56pm |
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umais aap k pas agar dlaeil k sath bat karny ka hosla hey to phir aap beshak kisi b debate main hissa lain aur agar aap ki maloomat kam hain ya aap ka mehdood knowledge iss baat ki aap ko ijazat nahi daita k aap kisi b masly main apny mu ko uss ki miqdar sy ziyada khoolain to aap k liye behtar mashwara yehi hey k aap apna mu band hi rakhain
doosri baat yeh k aap jis qisam ki lenguage shia k khilaaf istemaal karty hain to uss k muqably main agar shia b aap ko issi trah mukhatab kary to aap k dil par kia guzry gi..iss liye please agar aap k paas apni baat k haq main koi daleel nahi hey aur aap ka knowledge b itna nahi hey to phir mutnaza qisam ki behas sy bachain....ya phir daleel k sath baat karain jaisy koi ba'sha'oor insan karta hey . |
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| Posted on:31st Jul 2010, 9:49pm |
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diplomat
bhai lagta hai k ap ko knowledge nahi hai .. jin ashaab k mene name liye hain agar ap unhe janty hoty to ye baat na kehte. na hi modetrate warn karty. aray ye wo name hain jin ko nabi pak ne apna mehbooob or yaar kaha. ye wo ashkaas hain jin k qadmo tale sari dunya hai.
bhai apny name ki tarha diplomacy ikhtiar na karo. lagta hai in ashaab k baray me ap ko bhi ilm nahi hai jabhi itni lambi behes kar rahy ho.. ya phir ap khud shia ho .. khiar knowledge ki bat nahi hai ap ne konse yahan per ilm k pahar tor diye hain jo ilm ki baat kar rahy ho bhai.
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