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rotay raho rona!

i agree with khoobsurat . you are really a brave girl.

kia ye topic or ajkal har topic pakistani system ki kharabian bayan karnay k liye start hotay hai ?? jo kuchh log har topic mai pakistan ki kharabion ka rona rotay rehtay hain.. kabi english ka rona kabi kisi or bat ka rona.. is topic ka maksad kuch or tha jabkay rona dosri baton ka shuru ho jata hai, or ye tab say hai jab say is forum par kuch usa or uk k log aye hain... rotay raho rona..

bohot se logon ke face se naqab hatt gaya!!!

Mujhe bohot khushi howi ke meri post ne bohot se logon ke andar ke insaan ko bahir nikaal kar sab ke samne zahir kar diya.aur bohot se logon ke face se naqab hatt gaya!!!

Beautystar: aap ko mai pahle thora sa intellegent insaan samajhti thi but mera opinion thora change ho gaya hai. aap ko to 10years ke bachon wali urdu ki bhi samajh nahi to baqi aap ki kiya mental approach hogi. mai ne jo mahawra use kiya tha us ka matlab yeh hai ke jo cheez/shaks/country aap ko faida pohchae, aap us ko hi bura kahen. aage aap khud jante hai ke mai ne aap ko yeh kiyu kaha.

Pinky: mera khayal pahle aap ke liye yeh tha ke aap ek mature aur patriotic khatoon hain but thanx to ALLAH jis ne aap ki haqeeqat sab ke samne khol di. aap to intehai immature aur west-zadaa khatoon niklen. kitne maze se aap ne mujhe degrade kardiya aur khud hi assume kar liya ke mai ek uneducated ya novels/afsanon mai gum rehne wali larki hoon (kam az kam aap ke samne to larki hi hoon), it shows how sick ur mentality is. aap khud Pakistan se belong karti hain aur khud hi Pakistani girls ko under-estimate kar rahi hain. kiya hamari Pakistani Females kisi bhi country ki Females se kam hain? har field mai aaj kal aage aage hain magar janab aap ko kiya pata, shayad aap ki family mai aesi koi larki nahi hogi jis ne kabhi novels/afsanon se nikal kar duniya mai apna koi maqam banaya ho.

aap ki next post ko parh kar mera hans hans kar bura haal hogaya, Pinky aunti, aap to inferiority complex ka shikar hain, sach mai, jab hi to aap ne apni qualifictaion sab ko batana shuru kar di (hehehehehe) taka es se impress ho kar log aap ko koi topp cheez samajhne lagen, but im glad ke aap ne apni qualification bata di, mujhe es baat ki khushi howi ke mujh par ungli uthane wali ki qualification to mujh se bhi kam hai. ALLAH ka shukar hai ke mujhe etna complex nahi hai ke mai apni qualification bataon.(so, aap daren nahi).

Josh bhai: aap ne sahi kaha ke jab se yeh US aur UK wale desi-farangii es forum par aaye hain tab se forum kafi anti-Pakistani comments aur thinkings se bhar gaya hai warna en se pahle to aesa nahi hota tha. mana ke hamare country mai bohot si problems aur (enki zuban mai: burayian) hain but we love our country. bechare ghalti se foriegn countries chale jane wale log wahan jaa kar complex(inferior/ superior???) ka shikar ho gaye hain aur ab mu bhar bhar kar us mulk ko bura kehte hain jis ne unko izzat aur naam diya magar wahan farangiyon ke mulk mai 2nd degree citizen ban kar bhi apne aap ko topp-cheez samajhte hain. pata nahi jab Pakistan mai aur Pakistaniyon mai etni buraiyan hain to yeh log Pakistan-based web site par kiyu hamara time waste karne aa jate hain :( bechare hain to andar se paindoo hi naa:)

aap ke comments ka shukriya josh bhai.

well

    khoobsoorat mujay khooshi hoi yah sun ker kay aap kam az kam Ph.d tu ho gi kayounkay ager main nay M.A. 2 subjects main kia hay aur uss kay baad(ager aap ko samaj aai ho kaay associates aur transfer kia hota hay tu) yahan US main aa ker bhi bachelors ker rahi hoon.  Bera acha laga yah jaan ker kay aap ITNI ZIADA LAIQ FAAIQ HAIN, kay mairi family ko bhi achi tara say samajnay ka dawa ker rahi hain. 

    Waisay aap ko sach main ager angraizi ki samaj nahi aati tu plz aisi mails na perha kerain kayounkay aisiay hi aap kay nazuk damag per boaj perta hay aur aap uss post kay galat meaning nikalna shuru ker daiti hain. 

by the way, moderators nay registeration main bhi option dia houa hay apni qualification likhnay ka.  Aur ager mujay aisa coplex hota tu main wahan bera bera ker kay likh ker rakhti. lakin issi liay nahi likha kay mujay aptta tha kay aik lerki  kay pait main dard uthay ga wo daikh ker aur phir wo mujay aa ker batay gi kay us ki qualifivation muj say ziada hay. hahahahahaaaaa

         aur yah aap ko itna JWANI ka complex kis liay hay aur mujay kayoun bata rahi hain kay aap muj say young hain wagaira wagaira?? hahahaha really funny, kaisay kaisay complex aap nay hood paaal rakahay hain.  jab kuch aur nahi kahna aaya tu yah baat batani shuru ker di.  come on little baby, mujay in batoun say koi dilchaspi nahi hay.  so never mind for that.

josh sweetu

fasiee bro

    I guess I am not pointing out the BURAIAAAN of pak.  I am just telling beautystar about the way I have done my masters.  The thing is that MASTER means a person who is a pro in a certain subject/field.  But unfortunately, we have no such thing in paki colleges and uni.  we have just made our education system a funny thing, and it is not my fault than I have maters' degree but not a full commond on the language.

Anti-KaliZuban Sharam Karo

Na Shukray Log!

dear sister khobsurat.. aapnay bi wo baat note ki wo mai bi soch raha tha k jo muhavara pakistan mai rehnay walay or school tak pohnchnay wala bachon ko bi is muhavray ka pata hai jo manay or aapnay bola, wo beatyS. ko kyon nai pata... very strange... or iska anti pakistani words ko support karna balkay mazeed ghatia words likhna ,, dekh kar muje kafi hairangi hui, bcoz pak mai rehnay wala koi insan aisi bat nai karta jaisi is nay aik dosri post mai likhin hai..

BeautyStar may be i will reply you on that post,, may be is liye bcoz  u are a sensitive & emotional lad,, while my actual writing style is different,, so jab mai fori tor par koi reply karon to wo baat dosray k dimagh par kafi bura asar karti hai,, is liye agar reply kia to 2-3 martaba re-read karny k baad karonga.. ya shaed na hi karon bcoz u are special case ... (favouritism) 

jo log pakistan ki har baat mai buraiyan dhondtay hain wo na-Shukray log hain... achay ki talash karni chahiye lekin acha milnay par puranay ko har time hikarat say bura bhala kehna koi akalmandi nai hai,, kuch log (P) to wo kaam kar rahi hain jaisay koi admi doosri shadi kar lay or phir har wakt purani bv ko rota rahay k tum bohat buri thi tum mai ye khamiyan thi ab dekho ye bohat achi hai , ismai sab acha hai, tum mai kuch acha nai hai...
ab aik naya aa gaya hai b.s. , wo bi ronay lag gaya hai , or batanay lag gaya ha k pakistanio ko ye bi kehtay hain or wo bi kehtay hian.. rovo saray mil k.. shaed ap logo ko kuch faida ho jaey...

continue for fasiee bro

.............I was not finished yet and my baby was awake.  anyway,

 let me tell u one thing bro.  I am a proud Paki too, and no one will know how much I love pak.  But the thing is that we can change ourselves only when we accept and know what we are at this point. It will be not in favour of Pak if we keep saying that we are ok with whatever BURAAIN we have in pak.

  I am orry but I am not ok with that.  I love my country, and I want to change the mentality of our ppl.  And it stars with the acceptance of what we are doing now. 

 I have accepted that, and now I am working as much as I can to do whatever I can do or help to change our mentality.  Pak is not bad, this is us, pakis, who have problems with our mentality.  We need to change that to improve our system.

     The thing is that if u have the couraage to accept and laugh on yrself, then u have the courage to fix it also, otherwise u will remain emotional and would love to keep living in the same way.  I have the courage to laugh on what I do, and it does not bother me to accept the realities of life now.  I hope u will understand my point

Josh & Khoobsurat

RE: Pinky sis

faisee bhai

aray mere bhai, yeh kiya bata diya desi-farangiyon ko ke aap Pakistan jese backward country ke peele school mai parhte the. ohoooo.....ab to gulabi khatoon ki new post aayegi ke mujhe to pahle hi pata tha ke PAKIs sare ke sare hi jahil aur conservative mentality ke hote hain jab hi to faisee ko english mai likhi howi posts samajh nahi aaten (kiyu ke yeh PAKI, ek peele school ka parha howa hai.....) wese sach kahoon to jesi Angraizi sitaroon, gulabiyon aur neem-hakeemon ki hoti hai etni angraizi to 2nd standard ka bacha bhi samajh sakta hai. (ab desi-farangeees yeh kahenge ke hamare khayal mai to PAKIs hote hi 2nd stardard ke hain)

bhai faisee, mere uppar bhi yahi ilzam hai ke mai en farangiyon ki english samjh nahi sakti (kiya karoon, Pakistani jo thehri). Ab shayad yahi ilzam aap par bhi lagne wala hai. Tayar raho mere bhai.

wese jo word Foriegn countries mai Pakistaniyon ko hikarat se kaha jata hai (PAKI) wohi word use karte howe ek gulabi khatoon ka kehna hai ke Im a proud PAKI. hehehehehe. ab mai zada kiya kahoon, forum members(pakistani members) samjhdaar hain ke kis ki kiya mentality hai. jab hi to mai kehti hoon ke bohot se logon ke face ka naqab hatt gaya!

khooooooooobsoorat

Hello Khoobsoorat (khatra –e- Jann)

After reading your post, I am really feeling (khatra-e-Jann) from you. But believe me I dint bother on your post. I have no time to answer such posts, but I feel that at least I should clear your misunderstanding about passion behind my post. The problem is this, for my type of writer that, I can’t put the tone in my written words. What I said to Pinky is all in favor of my country Pakistan. I tried to realize her that we Pakistani also study the foreign author’s books. And I mentions especially Graduation level. And this is true. For example lets talk about the technology you are enjoying right now on a device (COMPUTER). Since 1990 I am studding in the field of computer and I rarely found a book of a Pakistani writer. I did not found any Pakistani writher’s book in 4 years of my Graduation in Information Technology. And you said “ Har topic par pakistani writers ki books available hain. ” I felt a lot shame reading this line. I shame on to myself that in these 17 years I didn’t write any book on this technology, because we don’t have this kind of trend and courage to write book. In USA, Europe, and Australia, most of the people must write after their retirement and even all professional writes during the job. There topic covers all sort of chores CLEANNING THE FIRE CHIMNI, ARRANGMENT OF GARDEN AND BACKYARD to the most advance and modern technology. Do we have books on these topics?

As for as the concern of my patriotism, I would like to explain you about my mindset in this regard. I am a Muslim first then Pakistani. And to you and all I must say that ALLAH Subhanho Tala created this whole universe for Muslims only. All non-muslims can share this universe with Muslims. So these boundaries are nothing for Muslims. Migration is not a deal for me. I am living in Pakistan at my own choice. Because the benefit of this country you can not imagine as a house wife.

If you read with your open eyes the bottom line for the post of beautyStar you may read that I mentioned the word country as a proud. You used the word (RISHWAT) for Pinky and beautyStar. These both people don’t need any RISHWAT from me, because both of them are well educated and think with there own brain. Too many people of this forum are very intelligent and good person and when ever I see the true effort from any, I must appreciate, this is the rule of my life. Mr. serious is a very open mind and ambitious person, Mr. Nikama is the most humble and punctual member, Mr. Hangama is always fully involve in every concern matters, Mr. Josh is a very keen and silence observer, Pinky is expert in fixing the jolting brain, beautyStar is master in jolting the inertness of brain. And I openly admit this all and admire all of them.

Though I have sense enough to know that what invoke you to writ this bullshit, and whom you want to please by writing this brainless testimonial. This is your right to please any body you like. But before writing on any topic please read the context of that subject.

neem hakeem: The new WATCHMAN of forum

Mr.nadeem kiya aap yeh batana pasand karen ge ke agar meri post aap ko achi nahi lagi to aap ne etna bara reply kiyu kiya??? As u said:

believe me I dint bother on your post. I have no time to answer such posts

very funny, u have no time to answer but u wrote such a looooong post just to clear My misunderstanding....Amazing !!

haan jo reply mai aap se lena chahoon gi woh yeh hai ke u said in ur last lines:

Though I have sense enough to know that what invoke you to writ this bullshit, and whom you want to please by writing this brainless testimonial. This is your right to please any body you like. But before writing on any topic please read the context of that subject.

plz tell me who gave u the right to call my post "a bullshit"????

I know u are a frustrated mind, but plz don't show it in all ur posts as its already clear to all the members of forum.

Parhe likhe logon ke liye: Summary of the above post:

Naa mere qalam se likhi gai, naa meri zuban se adaa howi,

jo nazar se kehne ki baat hai, kisi harf mai naa samaye gi,

koi phool chunta hai kis liye, koi dhool hota hai kis tarah,

yeh waqt waqt ki baat hai, tujhe zindagi bataye gi.

re Faisee

   Thankyou for taking time from ur tough routine to answer me.  I know what u are talking about.  I also went to the same schools, and no english medium and stuff like that.  If u ever read my previous posts, I always say that we, the paki students are briallint.  Why?  because of the same tough system in our schools. 

  Let me also tell u that with all my very hard and tough routine, with kids, households and even my own home-based business, I have a GPA of 3.59 and it went from 4.00 to that numbers just when I was expecting and simultaniously taking 4 classes togather in the summer semester.  U study here and u would know how hard is that in harsh summers to go to college while u are constantly sick and loosing weight for not eating.  But I have done it all and I know that Paki ppl are the most hard working ones when they get the oppertunity.

   Yes,I know that I make fun of the bad stuff of paki ppl, but u will never see that I make fun of pak itself.  Pak is my identity and I always intruduce myself as proud paki.  not to mention that my key-chain itself is a paki flag, so that I can silently tell everyone that how much I love my country.

    Now,

let me tell u why I make fun of our mentality.  The thing is that there are two type of ppl in Pak. One who are ignorant because of the hard life and remain ignorant because they dont have the luxery of time to get them introduced with the things they need to know.  I have a very tender heart for them and my best effort has always been for them to provide such ppl with the basic stuff, amenities etc to give them soem extra time for themselevs.  Alhamdulillah, even if I am here, I have my mom there to support me in my efforts and allah gives me taufeeq in every manner to help them out in every possible regard. 

con....

.........The other category is where ppl are ignorant and want to STAY IGNORANT.  This is the majority of paki ppl.  We have all the basic necassaites, we have the resourses but we do not want to use them, we do not want to change us by changing our thinking, mentality etc. 

   TV is the most available media for majority of paki ppl, and have u seen what they mostly watch on it???????? 

   Fine, that there was a time when we only had one channle available, but now, when we have plenty of channles which are purposely developed for education and yes tey are providing great amount of knoweldge, then why the hell  women are sitting and watching cheap indian drams where the story revolves around the saas bahu basically and the conspricies of ghraloo shyasat???

  women are the bone in a society and men are suppose to support them to produce good minds.  Did u ever see it happening????????????????

from me a BIG NO to that. 

Yes I make fun off the mentality of these ppl who have EARS and they also HEAR but their minds do not LISTEN.  They do not even TEND to move their thoughts.  and in my dictionary, there is no word like love or merci for such ppl.  I have problem with them and since I have already tried many many times to help them to change their thinking with no outcomes, I am just not into wasting more energy for thier dumbness.  so whenever I see something which is supposed to be said by a DUMB BLOND only, I will make fun of that. 

Mndeem

     Yes, I got the point from yr post what  u were trying to make me realize.  that is why I told u my qualification, since I was thinking that u might be not familiar with the fact that I came here after finishing my stuied there and know all the rights and wrongs of the system.   Kia hayal hay show achhi maari thi na main nay, just kidding. hahahaaaaa

Re: pinky sis

U guyz AINT got no lyfe

Re: nagman