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Masturbation: Get Right Islamic Information

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pyara_100 Group: Members  Joined: 21st Apr, 2007  Topic: 2  Post: 5  Age:  32  
Posted on:10th Jul 2007, 3:28am
 

Masturbation: Get Right Islamic Information

Salam.

i want to give islamic information about self masturbation. Please read it and then get rid of masturbation.

Jaisa ke Quran e Pak main Allah ne farmaya:    Wohi had se barhne wale hain hadood Allah se tajawaz kerne wale tajawaz main kamil aur is ki intha ko pohonchne wale hain.    ( parah 29, almaraj)

bad ulma ne kaha hai ke masturbation bi is main dakhil hai.

My Reply Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 2  Post: 2124  Age:  45  
Posted on:10th Jul 2007, 10:02am
 

re: pyara_100

1. masturbation karne wale tamam log is bat se muttafiq hai keh masturbation achchi bat nahi.

2. doctor hazrat bhi kahte hai keh masturbation aik bad habit hai aur nahi karni chahia.

3. beshtar logo ka believe hai keh masturbation islam mai allow nahi hai aur masturbation karna gunah hai.

4. in tamam bato ke bawajood 95% se ziadah log masturbation karte hai.

5. sawal yeh hai keh agar masturbation achchi bat nahi hai, bad habit hai, aur islam mai bhi mana hai tu phir log masturbation kio karte hai?
tsalam Group: Experts  Joined: 07th Jul, 2007  Topic: 0  Post: 106  Age:  44  
Posted on:10th Jul 2007, 11:42pm
 

Clarification

In Prophet's (pbuh) time, marrying a slave-girl and "Mutah" marriage was allowed in the beginning; however, the latter practice was annulled later. Although slavery is illegal in most if not all countries (I am not sure), the provision of marrying a slave-girl has not been declared annulled by religious scholars based on Ijma. The reason I am saying that is Muslims now do not have these options, and most are getting married in their 30s, masturbation has become so prevalent in Muslim society.

Although Allah forbade us to be transgressors in the Holy Quran, the verses in Surah Miraaj are

Ayah 29: And those who guard their chastity,
Ayah 30: Except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed,
Ayah 31: But those who trespass beyond this are transgressors;-

Now, here as I understand it is talking about "guarding chastity" from others except wives and slave-girls. The Meriam-Webster dictionary defines "chastity" as a : abstention from unlawful sexual intercourse b : abstention from all sexual intercourse c : purity in conduct and intention d : restraint and simplicity in design or expression.

When a man/woman masturbate he is not doing sex with other and the word "guarding" of chastity implies guarding it from someone other than self. If the term were 'modesty' or 'decency' then one could remotely link that to masturbation, as the person himself/herself is considering it indecent or immodest often times. Besides, when Quran and/or hadith wants to make something unlawful (Haram), it has been mentioned directly without any ambiguity (for example, drinking alcohol, blood and eating pigs, marrying mothers, sisters, sister of a wife, and aunts, remarriage of Prophet's (pbuh)wives, anal sex, etc.) So, whatever that has not been directly mentioned in Quran and/or Sahih hadith, cannot be declared by someone as haram. At best, religious scholars based on their consensus can call it Makruh. If they cross that boundary, then by innovating something as haram, they can be considered as transgressors. Partly for this reason, religious scholars have not tried to ban marriage to a slave-girl.

It is always a good practice to provide sound information in terms of Islam, but one should not try to propagate his personal idea about an issue as 'right Islamic information". If s/he desires to do so, then it has to be based on Quran/Hadith/Ijma/Kiyas in that order.

Hope this clarifies some concerns that other may have on this issue.




pyara_100 Group: Members  Joined: 21st Apr, 2007  Topic: 2  Post: 5  Age:  32  
Posted on:11th Jul 2007, 2:13am
 

Get right Islamic Information

ghalba e shahwat ko kamzoor kerne ka ilaj khud Holy Prophet Phuh ne btaya . Hadiis sharif main hai ke jo nikah ki takat nahi rakhta us per lazim hai ke roze rakhe ta ke musht zani se bach sake.

Dr sahib i m very appreciate to ur books and information. but aap kehte hain ke masturbation se penis ko kuch nahi hota i think u r misguiding to people. ya aap encourage ker rahain hain.

1.JISMANI NUQSANAT
mAREEZ KA BADAN KAMZOOR HO JATA HAI. blood ki kakami. hafza kamzoor. chahre per pimples. eyes andar ko dans jati hain. hath bhege bhege aur sard . joroun main dard.nazla aur zakam. aisa larka ankh main ankh dal ker bat nahi ker sakta.
next time main aap ko jinsi nuqsanat bataon ga.

Dr i m disagree with u




Bewaqoof Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 253  Post: 4334  Age:  38  
Posted on:11th Jul 2007, 8:21am
 

re: pyara_100

doctor bhi ghalat ho sakta hai. lekin doctor ko aik doctor hi challange kar sakta hai. agar masturbation se penis ko nuqsan pahunchta hai tu phir doctor ko kia zaroorat pari keh woh kahe keh nuqsan nahi pahunchta hai. kia doctor masturbation ka rishtadar (relative) hai jo yeh ghalat information dega. kia doctor ko ghalat kahne ka koi mawza milta hai.

kisi doctor ko kia zaroorat pari hai keh masturbation ke bare mai ghalat information de. doctor wahi batai kahta hai jo woh apni kitab mai read karta hai. medical book mai beghair research ke koi bat nahi hoti. agar medical book mai likha hai keh masturbation ka nuqsan nahi hai tu is ka saf matlab hai keh nahi hai.

ab raha masturbation karna chahia ya nahi yeh ap ki apni marzi hai. ap masturbation nahi karna chahte hai na kare. ap ke mazhab mai mana hai tu bhi na kare, koi ap ko zabardasti masturbation ka mashwara nahi de raha hai.

koi zaroori nahi keh agar koi cheez mazhab mai mana hai tu woh medically bhi wrong hoga. hamare mazhab mai pooja karna mana hai, boot parasti mana hai, sood (interest) mana hai, jhoot bolna mana hai. aur bhi bahut sari batai mana hai. lekin is ka yeh matlab nahi keh mandir jane se, pooja karne se, jhoot bolne se, bank se interest lene se medically nuqsan hai. kio keh yeh mazhab islam mai mana hai.

bhai tum masturbation ko ghalat samajhte ho tu nahi karo. tum ko masturbation karne ka mashwarah kon de raha hai? rahi bat medical ko challenge karne ki tu pahle doctor bano, masturbation par research kare, agar masturbation ka koi nuqsan nazar aye tu phir medical ko challange karna.

tum ne jo jismani nuqsanat batai hai woh nuqsanat masturbation se nahi hota. agar yeh nuqsanat masturbation se hota tu is waqt 98% logo ko yahi problem hota. kio keh 98% log zindagi mai kabhi na kabhi masturbation zaroor karte hai.

agar tum ko yeh takaleef hai tu kisi doctor se jakar ilaj karao. agar tum samajhte ho keh yeh sab masturbation ki wajah se hai tu phir yeh tumhara waham hai. waham ki bimari ka bhi ilaj ho sakta hai is ke lia psychiatrist ke pas jana hota hai.
khangi61 Group: Members  Joined: 19th Jul, 2007  Topic: 6  Post: 104  Age:  52  
Posted on:31st Jul 2007, 6:02pm
 

tsalam

do you have a full knowledge of cancelling and cancelled (nasikh wa masookh)verse of the holy quran.don't explain the verses yourself, rather give some authentic references. I hope you don't mind

 

josh Group: Members  Joined: 30th Jul, 2007  Topic: 47  Post: 2296  Age:  36  
Posted on:1st Aug 2007, 5:12pm
 

Dont Do Any Illegal Activity

I am agree with pyara to some extent.
bewakoof ki posts read kar k yehi lagta hai k YE KOI AAM INSAN NAHI hai balkay is website k doctors ka koi na koi is say taluq zaroor hai. jab bi kisi doctor k khilaf especially MY REPLY k khilaf kuch kaha jata hai to foran say pehlay bewakoof ka reply ata hai or apni taraf say doctor ko bharpoor andaz mai defend karta hai. bewakoof or MY REPLY ki adatain bi bohat same hain or reply karnay ka andaz bi bohat milta hai  aur dono hi immature hain.
i also observed k jab bi MY REPLY ko kisi batameezi wali post ki waja say criticise kia jata hai to MY REPLY ki id say ya to jawab nai ata ya phir bohat cool reply ata hai, or doosri taraf BEWAKOOF k nick say bohat tafseeli or tanzia kisam ka jawab ata hai jo k MY REPLY k answer ko fully or in full detail defend karta hai.
now in this post bewakoof ,, pyara_100 ko tanz kar raha hai "agar tum ko yeh takaleef hai tu kisi doctor se jakar ilaj karao." and visit his another post where i oppose to My Reply and again bewakoof nay apna third class dimagh use kartay huey kafi tanzia jawab dia.
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BEWAKOOF u MUST CHANGE YOUR ID TO "MY REPLY2" ya phir "DISPENSOR".

Bewakoof said k zaroori nahi k jo bat mazhab mai mana hai wo medical science mai bi mana ho, to sab say pehli bat ye k if any one is muslim, to usay is bat par 100% yakeen hona chahiye k jo kuchh Quran-e-Majeed mai likha hai wo sab sach hai. or agar koi bi ilm koi bi science Quran k rules k khilaf apni foolish logics k zariye koi bat naee baat prove karnay ki koshish karti hai to wo sab galat hai.
buraee k baray mai sab jantay huey agar ham mai say koi bi koi buraee karta hai to atleast us k dil mai ye zaroor hota ha or hona bi chahiye k ye mai galat kar raha hon bcoz it is against the islamic laws, bcoz we are muslims and we do 100% believe on Allah. yehi waja hai k pre-mature ejaculation ya is say milti julti bemarian ziada tar muslims ko hoti hai bcoz chahey wo galat kam kar letay hain lekin unkay dil mai Allah ka KHOF or akhrat par eman hota hai, or yehi KHOF bemari paida honay ki main waja banta hai, or angrez ko khof nahi hota wo bekhof fahashi kartay hain or unko is kisam ki chhoti bemarian bi nahi lagti, lik premature ejaculation.

psychology kia hai?  is mai ziada tavaja mental treatment par di jati hai. or mukhtalif bhagwano or butoon ka soch kar wo hindus mentally problem or dipression ka shikar ho jaey ga k meri mannat konsa bhagwan puri karay ga or mai kis k pas jaon. isi tara agar koi jhoot bolta hai to bohat say log jhoot bol kar depression ka shikar ho jatay hain, guilt feel kartay hain, sometime rat ko sona muskhkil ho jata hai.
to islam aik mukamal zabita hiyat hai, quran mai batai gaee har bat or jis bat say bi mana kia gaya hai us mai koi na koi raz chhupa hai or insan ki bhalaee chhupi hai or wo insan k liye 100% faida mand hai, chahey wo faida physically ho ya mentally.

According to my opinion, mazi ya mani jo k masterbation ki waja say ya ehtlaam ki surat mai bahir ati hai uska taluk insan k power system say hai, agar to ehtalaam ki surat yani natural way say bahir aye to ye natural process kehlaye ga or kisi bi natural process ka koi nuksaan nahi hai balkey esey ehtalaam k bad mard apnay ap ko thora ziada fresh feel karta hai, jabkay musht-zani aik un-natural way hai or jab bar bar un-natural way say ham mani ko bahir nikalain gay to uskay bad effects hamaray jisam mai zaroor paida hongay, pre-ejaculation waghaira ki sorat mai. so it is my request to all masterbaters k please avoid any un-natural way. 

Advice for Bewakoof: i think k ap khud practically only 30 days 2 times daily musht-zani karo or phir ham logo say share karo k koi nuqsan hua ya nahi or tumhe wo sab bemarian jo pyaray nay bataee wo lagin ya nahi lagin.
One more thing k dunia ki koi bi science hamaray mazhab ki sachaee jan-nay k liye use karo, apnay mazhab ko oppose karnay k liye nahi and no other book (even if it is medical book) is more respectable and authentic than Quran-e-Majeed.

I would appreciate if doctor khan has time and can write something about this topic and correct me if i am wrong somewhere. (i know being a doctor she will also oppose me in many things)

My Reply Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 2  Post: 2124  Age:  45  
Posted on:1st Aug 2007, 10:47pm
 

medical and religious reference

aik shaks na alim-e-din hai aur na hi doctor. lekin dono mamle mai tang ara raha hai. aur beghair reference ke sirf zati opinion bian kar raha hai.

bhai agar alim-e-din ho tu religious references do aur agar doctor ho tu medical references do. yeh kia bat hui ke jawab dia jaraha hai keh According to my opinion.

post ko mukhtasar aur to the point likho. apna zati opinion ke bajai religious aur medical reference do warna yaha doosro ka time zai nahi karo. aur agar hamari bat samajh nahi ati tu phir khood hi lambi lambi post likho aur khood read karo. ham tu tumko jawab tab hi dege jab tum dini batai religious reference se karo ge aur medical batai medical reference se.

reference ke beghair tum se batai karna bhains ke age been bajana hai.
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