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Ik Hindu Ki Faryad Musalman K Naam

Urdu   >>  Urdu Poetry
 
 
 
kim84 Group: Members  Joined: 02nd Aug, 2007  Topic: 113  Post: 786  Age:  29  
Posted on:11th Aug 2007, 8:32am
 

Ik Hindu Ki Faryad Musalman K Naam

IK HINDU KI FARYAD........MUSALMAN K NAAM

ik hi prabhooo ki poja ham agr krty nhi...ik hi dar-bar pr sir ap dhartay nhi

apni sajda gah devi ka agr astahan hi...ap k sajdoo ka markz bhi qabristan hi

apny dewtaoo ki ginti agr ham rkt nhi...ap bhi mushkil kusaoo ko gin sakty nhi

jtny knkar utny shankar gr mashor hi...jitny murday utnay sajdy ap ka dstoor hi

apny devi-devtaoo ko hi gr kuch ikhtiyar...ap k waliyo ki takt ka nhi hi shumar

waqt mushkil nara agr hi bajrang balli...ap ko dekha lagaty nara Ya Haider Ali

leta avtar prbho apna gr hr desh me...Apny smjha Mustafa ko khuda k bhes me

js trh hm bajaty hi mandro my ghantiyaa..Tarbato pr dekha ap ko bjaty taliyaa

Hm bhjan krty hi ga kr dewta ki khobiya...Ap bi kabroo py gatay jhom k kwaliya

Hm chdaty hi butoo pr dodh ya pani ki dhar...ap ko dkha chdaty chadr bshumar

But ki poja hm kry hm ko mily taresaqr...Ap pojy kabr ko kynkr jnat my mily ghr

Ap musrq-hm bi mushrq,maila jb saaf hi...Jnati tum dozakhi hm,ye kesa insaf hi

morti pthr ki pojy gr hm to bad-nam hi...Ap sang y naqsh ko pojy to niko nam hi

Kitna milta julta mra ap sy iman hi...Ap kehty hi magr ham ko k be-iman hi

shrkiya amal sy gr gher muslim hm hwy...Phr yhi amal kr k kesy muslim tm rhy?

hi hamry jashn aur basant tehwar bi...Aur dhadaly sy manaty hi basnty ap bi.

Hm bhi janat my rhy gy tum agr ho janati...

Wrna dozakh my hamary sath ho gy ap bhi...

NOTE: Apny amal pr ghoor kry dekhy agr ap k amal bhi in ashar jesy hi...to isy foran tark kry.....Is sy phly ko bhut deer hojayee.....

Ik Allah aur ik Nabi(SAW) py iman lany waly na kisi aur k samnay sajda krty hi na hi Allah k gher pr iman ya us sy madad waghera mangty hi....

With Rgds

 

Bewaqoof Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 253  Post: 4295  Age:  38  
Posted on:12th Aug 2007, 11:46pm
 

faryad koi nahi sunta

lagta hai keh kim84 ki faryad kisi ne nahi suni. koi reply nahi de raha hai.
khangi61 Group: Members  Joined: 19th Jul, 2007  Topic: 6  Post: 104  Age:  52  
Posted on:12th Aug 2007, 6:29pm
 

kim 84

dear kim i didn't understand the reason for publishing this poem and what do you want to suggest from it.

first you didn't write the source of this poem. is this your own creation? if yes i would say its same as if you try to coneect sky to the earth, and if you just copied it still you need to elaborate your aims.I don't think there is any kind of resemblance between hindu and muslim.

 had you known that if you are muslim? then its only because of those mardan-e- khuda which i think you relate as one who are in qabristan. you should  know, no prophet came in india but the friends of God (aulia Allah). therefore you should accept it that one can get help from the bundgan-e-khuda. we were part of same family but the aulia Allah showed us the right path.

there is nothing common between muslim and hindu. its only our thinking or the designs of some people who want to create some misunderstandings.

remember one thing, no matter how weak we are as a practicing muslim but we will never associate anything to Allah.if its author is hindu than, he wrote what he thinks right and if you publish it do you back his thinking?

Mr kim 84 you need to clarify your position in front of respaectable members of forum. i hope you give it a second thought.

khoobsurat Group: Members  Joined: 06th Jul, 2007  Topic: 32  Post: 326  Age:  28  
Posted on:13th Aug 2007, 12:10am
 

kim plz read the poem again

bhai, aap es poem ko dobara read karo aur phir khud socho ke kiya kisi musalmaaan ko zaib deta hai ke woh aesa comparision kare, dekho es poem mai bohot si aesi batein hain jo thought-provoking hain but mere bhai totality mai yeh poem hamare Islamic rules aur teachings se contradictory hai, so plz aesi cheezen post naa kiya karo, wese bhi tumhen moderator se warning mil chuki hai, ab sambhal jao, warna kahen block hi naa ho jao mere bhai.
josh Group: Members  Joined: 30th Jul, 2007  Topic: 47  Post: 2296  Age:  36  
Posted on:13th Aug 2007, 2:11am
 

Against Faryad Of Hindu!

very nice Khangi61.

kim84 why are u promoting faryad of hindu?
kim, jis hindu ki ye poem hai, ap us hindu ko ye mashwara do, k agar wo samajhta hai k muslims bi wohi kuchh kar rahay hain to ye hindu ko foran say pehlay islam kabool kar lena chahiye, phir jab ye hindu muslim ho jaey ga phir usey pata chalay ga k actually islam kia hai or muslim ki shaan kia hai.
example: hindu bi brush karty hain, or muslim bi brush kartay hain, to kia is sey ye kaha jaey k hindu or muslims mai koi fark nahi?

kim84 Group: Members  Joined: 02nd Aug, 2007  Topic: 113  Post: 786  Age:  29  
Posted on:13th Aug 2007, 3:26am
 

Re: Faryad...

Dear KHANGI-KHOBSURAT & JOSH....

Thank U for ur comments...........First this was an Urdu Poetry which i wrote...

Maqsad: This was a hindu faryad to all muslims tht y muslims calling them JAHANMI bcoz all tht ibadat jo wo loog apny devi's ki krty hi aj kal musalman bi usi trah krty hi.....Ye faryad kisi musalman ko hindu tehrany k liyeee nhi....

Balkay....Musalmanoo ki ankhee kholny k liyee hi...jesa k likha gaya hi k hindu loog prasad charhathy hi mandar my aur maslman CHIRAGH to kbi CHADIR waghera.......

Hindu loog devi k samnay nachtay hi aur gatay hi..muslman Darbaroo my kawaliyaa dhool bajay bajatay hi.......

Hindu.....loog devi ko sajda krty hi.........yha aa kr dekho DATA darbar my loog DATA sahab ki kabar ko sajda krty hi........

Bas yee poetry un maslmanoo k liyee hi k un ko kuch ihsas hoo k hindu aur maslmanoo my jo farq hi us ko na khatam kroo.......

Sirf Allah ki ibadad kro.....us k samnay sajda kro.....Us sy mango......yee sb darbaroo pr chadar chadhana,sajda krna sb gunaah my ata hi...

Bas mri is post ka yhi maqsad tha...........Allah sy mango Allah k gher sy mat mangoooooooooo

NOTE: Yha tka k jb ap MADINA nabi(SAW) ki zyarat ko jaye gy to wha ki police ap ko nabi(SAW) ki kabar ki traf moon kr k dua mangny nhi dy gi...bal ky ap ko boly gi ki KIBLA ki traf Moon kr k dua mango...............jb ap kabar ko kiss kry gy to wo ap ko mana kry gy......k Allah sy mango......................

Jb ap dono jha k sardar app(SAW) ki kabar ko kiss nhi kr sakty ...us ko sajda nhi kr sakty to yeee wali-aur DATA kya cheez hi,,,,,,,,,,,,

I hope the above will b clear to all my brother n sisters..

Wa Salam

Your Brother

safeena Group: Members  Joined: 02nd Jul, 2007  Topic: 15  Post: 240  Age:  33  
Posted on:13th Aug 2007, 2:07pm
 

Re: faryad

dear members Assalam o Alikum

aap loog ne kim ka is poem main kia gaya TANZ samjha nahi KIm ne un muslims per tanz kia hay jo MAzaroon aur QABROON pe ja ker Qabroon main Madfoon  loogon se mangte hain DATA DARBAAR main  ja ker sajde kerte hain  aur Ya Ali Madad aur Ya Muhammad Madad  kehte hain Hadiess hay

" yahoodiyoon aur esaiyyoon per Allah kee lanat ho k unhone apne nabiyoon kee qabroon ko IBADAt gah bana liya " sahi muslim 435 436

" ye aesi qoum hain k jab in ka koi naik aadmi wafaat pata hay tu is kee qabar per masjid bana lete hain aur phir is main tasveerian waghera banate hain ye Allah k nazdeek BADTAREEN makhlooq hain " sahi bukhari and sahi muslim

title se aap loog lag raha hay parehsan hoye k ek hindu kee faryad maqsad ye hay k hindu keh raha hay hum bhi pathar kee moortiyoon se mangte hain tum bhi aa k ghair Allah ko sajde kerte ho  qabroon main madfoon loogon se mangte ho  hum bhi deviyoon k liye nachte hain tum bhi darbaroon main qawwaliyaan aur dhamaal dalte ho  matlab ye sab ek jesa hay Hindu aur BAZZ MUSLIMS main jo hona nahi chaheyye aur ye sab ghalat hay HINDUANA  asraat hain jo humain chour deni chaheyye

aur ye hee KIM ne batana chaha hay oper beyaan kee hoi Ahadess se ye baat sabit hoti hay k qabroon ko ibadadt gah bana jaiz nahi hay aur Allah ne lanat farmai hay is amal per

Sahi Muslim 489

"Saydna Jabir Razi Allah tala anhu kerte hain Rasool S A W ) ne Qaber ko pukhta kerne is per bethne (mjawri kerne) aur is per IMARAT(gumbad)banane ko mana farmaya hay"

i think is poetry main is k alawa koi aur baad nahi aur kisi ko mayri baat buri lagay tu us k liye sorry kion k her koi apne FIQAH (firqa) ko hee follow kerta hay jo main ne parha aur samjha wo yahan likh dia hay

thanx

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Posted on:13th Aug 2007, 2:24pm
 

Re

Sura e NAHALaayat 20 and 21

yani jo loog Allah k siwa jin loogon ko pukarte hain wo koi cheez paidanahi ker sakte aur khud makhlooq hainaur maray hoye hain bayjaan hain(roohain in kee apnay mouqaam per pohanch gain)aur un ko ye bhi khabar nahi k wo kan jee uthain gay"

Sura e Fatir aayat#22"(ae NAbi )aap ( S A W )qabar main paray hoye murdoon ko nahi suna sakte "

Sura e Rom Aayat # 50 " (ae NAbi ) aap ( S A W ) MURDOON ko nahi suna sakte "

 kia in Qurani Aayaat se ye baat wazeh nahi hoti? jo itne etmaad se qaber waloon ko pukara jata hay jese un kee hajatain wo qaber wale hee poore ker te hain, un k naam kee nazar o niyaz kee jati hai Allah k nabi ne kis tarah zindagee guzari us ka lamha lamha humare pass kitaboon main mehfooz hay kabhi humray Nabi ne kisi k naam kee Nazr o niyaz nahi de na Nabi ( S A W ) k baad kisi SAHABI ne NABI ( S A W ) k naam kee nazr o niyaz dee  tu phir ye saab kion kiya jata hay ??

khangi61 Group: Members  Joined: 19th Jul, 2007  Topic: 6  Post: 104  Age:  52  
Posted on:13th Aug 2007, 6:31pm
 

solicitors of faryad

mr kim aap kehtay hain keh musalman darbaroon par qawwaliyan gatay hain, to kia aap ko pata hay keh qawwali kis ki eejad hay. yeh khawaja gharib nawaz rahmatullah alai ki hain. jinhonn nay kahi hazar nahi bulkay kahi laakh  hindu musalman kiyey thay. aap ko pata hona chahiyey keh nabi pak 9peace be upon him) ki madina sharif aamid per b duf bajae gae they, aur aap nay munah nahi farmaya tha,

jahan tak qabroon par chadar ya phool cherhanay ka ta'ulaq hay to kia aap apnay abaa ki qabroon per naho jaatay. yeh to un logoon ki kamai hay. aur allah ka farman hay jo log mara naam buland kartay hain, main un ka naam marnay ka bahd bi buland rakhta hoon.

aur aap nay madina sharif k shurtoon ki masal diee hay, to un ko kia maloom keh deewanay deedar key liyey kitnay bataab hotay hain, to kia aap b yeh batana chahtay hain keh aap b un jaisa mazhab rakhtay hain.

aur safeena sahiba aap bahot ayat bayan karti hain kia in ka siaq o sibaq b maloom hay.

haan hum ya nabi kehtay hain kiyonon k hamara aqeeda haykeh hamaray nabi maray nahi bulkay dunya say parda kia hay.

kia aap is baat par yaqeen nahi rakhti keh mairay nabi (peace be upon him) her musalman ki qabr main tashrif laatay hay to aik murda kaisay harkat k qabil hota hay.

mairay nabi to kainaat ki jaan hain. jaan hay to jahan hay.

kia aap nay Qur'an sharif main nahi parha kae sheeh martay nahi bulkay zinda hain aur tum un ki zindagi ka shahoor nahi rakhtay.

agar aik shaheed zinda ho sakta hay to aaqa to badarja uula zinda ho sakta hay.

kohi b zee shahoor insaan qabroon par sajda nahi kar sakta. haan albuta bosa lainay main kohi mazahiqa nahi hay.

men your thoughts.

safeena Group: Members  Joined: 02nd Jul, 2007  Topic: 15  Post: 240  Age:  33  
Posted on:13th Aug 2007, 7:03pm
 

RE:khangi61

aap ka reply parh k mujhay andaza tu ho gaya thaa k  aap ka talluq jis  firqay se hai us ke lehaaz se KIM ne ye sab ghalat likha hay matlab QAWWALIYAAN aur MAzaroon pe ja ker dua mangna

main is topic pe koi behass nahi kerna chahti kion kay ye ek LAHASIL behass hay aur na hee yahan mozoon hai

sirf aap se request hai k aap sahi MUSLIM ya BUKHARi shreef kee koi hadeess yahan per refrence k saath batain jis main Allah k Piyaray  Rasool Hazrat Muhammat Mustafa ( S A W ) ne qaber per ja ker dua mangne ko ya qawwaliyaan  ganay ko farmaya ho (aur bhai  kia aap ko lagta hay k aaj kal NAAt shareef aur qawwaliyoon main DAF k alawa koi aur music nahi??)ya ye farmaya ho k mayray baad HARAM shareef aao tu mayray Roza e Mubark kee taraf chera ker kay zaror dua kerna . main ne jo Ahadees parhi hain us main tu ye hee hay k Piyare NABI (S A W ) ne humesha ye hee farmaya hay k Qabar pe MAzaar na banana , Qabrain PAKKI na kerna aur HIJJA TUL WIDA main bhi AAP ( S A W ) ne farmaya thaa k mayray baad mayri QABAR ko MAZAR na banana .

aur plzzz is baat ko aap behass na samjhiye ga balkay ager koi aesi baat hai jo humain nahi pata wo pata chal jaye ye maqsad hay mayra

Re KIM : KIM aap bhi batain yahan k aap ne jo ye nazm likhi hai tu is k kia SIYAAQ O SABAAQ  thay aur aap ne jo aesa likha tu aap ko kion ye sab HINDUS  se milta hoa laga?? 

 

faisee Group: Active Members  Joined: 13th Feb, 2007  Topic: 79  Post: 776  Age:  30  
Posted on:13th Aug 2007, 8:05pm
 

Re: usage of hindi language

kim bhai, aap nai jo kuch bhi likha, jis bhi siaq-o-sabaq main likha, us sai qata-e-nazar, I have observed kai hindu ki language hindi ki copy sab sai ziada aap hi kartay hain. for example word "dede" for behan, "sehmat" for agree and may be some more words be there which i haven not seen due to lack of time.

aap nai kaha kai jo sab kuch hindu kartay hain, wahi hamary log kartay hain, aakhri baat hindi bolnay ki thi, jo aap ab poori kar rahay hain.

i respect your opinion, but sab sai pehlay aap ko role model banna parta hai, 2 minute kai sentimental post sai wah wah tu lee ja saktee hai laikin woh useless hota hai. ab agar aap kahain kai ham english bhi tu boltay hain tu us per aik different discussion start karna paray ga, filhal agar aap hinduana russom sai chutkaray ki baat kar rahay hain tu language bhi culture aur tehzeeb ka aik part hotee hai. shayed aap nai indian movies kafi dekhi hain jis ki wajah sai yeh words aap ko itnay achay lagay kai aap nai in ko apnay style main include karna chaha. actually we don't know the beauty of our URDU language because we don't know it in full. I know is kai reply main kafi objections ayen gai, but I would like to reply them.

khoobsoorat: yeh aik aur keera tha jo main nai nikala, aap kim ki "dede" hain is liye us kai bajaye aap sai sorry pehlay karta hoon. I would proudly say that your pakistani ladies are my "behna's", not "dede's".

waisay in one of post once he started with "khoobsoorat de de...don ko mafi de de", i was confused kai kim is ordering khoobsoorat to give some thing..later i knew that first "de de" is for sister which is used in "hindu culture"
kim84 Group: Members  Joined: 02nd Aug, 2007  Topic: 113  Post: 786  Age:  29  
Posted on:14th Aug 2007, 2:08am
 

Shukran!

First of all thnks to all..............Mery mutabik jb tak ik topic py discussion nhi ho gi us k positive aur nagitive pehlooo samnay nhi ayee gyy....Hm yaha fight nhi kry gy balky apni apni rayee(comments) dy gy....Baki her koi apna Zameer-Dil-Demagh rkhta hi....Jesy usy acha ur munasib lagy...

1) KHANGI Bhai: Jesa k ap ny kha k App(SAW) jb madina tashreef layee to bachiyoo ny DAF baja kr ap k istiqbal kiya.....to ab bi qawaliii my DUF bajayee koi iteraz ni ho ga BUT wo DUF us time kyn bajaya gya..Offcourse Khushi ka sama tha...App(SAW) madina tashreef layee thy...sb loog khush thy thts y...Ap yee kha ka insaf hi koi murda kabar my hi aur DHAMAL + DHOOL + BAJAY bajay ja rhy hi.......Mry khyal my murday ko to swab kuch nhi hasil hota is sy ----------Yes agr is k opposite aap Quran ka khatam kry....Naat khuwani waghera kry to behtar hi murday ko to swab mily ga..............

2nd APP(SAW) K DEWANY: Hr momin aap(SAW) ka dewana hi.....chahye ap ho my ho ya ye jhan ho........Mgr yee sochoo app(SAW) kis k dewany thy ALLAh k...to kya my ALLAH ki jaga ap(SAW) ko sajda kro......For example Ap apny abbu ki izat krty hi aur ap k abbu apny abbu ki izzat krty hi to ap zyada izzat kis ki kro gy----------Zahir grand father ki izzat abbu sy zyada kro gy bcoz jb ap k abbu un ki izzat krty hi to ap to kro gy hi..............

phly LA ILAHA IL-LALAH then MOHAMAD UR RASOOLULLAH......

FAISEE bhai:Thnks 4 comments.........first ap ny language ka kha......aur us ka jwab khud diya jesa k ap english use krty ho.............Mgr phir ap ny kha k rasoom khatam krny k liyee phly language ko khatam krna chyee.........To mry bhai hr jaga ka apna culture hota i m in Dubai from last 5-6 years.....6 saal my my ny 6 months bi Pak my nhi guzary hongy.............In Dubai 60% Expatriates are from India, 25 % are Pakis n rst are Bangali/Philpins/Sri lankans etc...

Mry zyada tr dost Indians hi + ap ki baat theek hi my hindi pictures dekhta ho bt mry khyal my BARS-DISCOS-NIGHT CLUBS waghera jany sy aram sy AC theatre my movie dekhna acha hi............Ab mri laanguage aisi hi bcoz i m living in tht culture...........Agr ap England my 1 year bhi guzaroo to "THANKS" ko FANKS bolo gy........

Yes rhi baat agr ap Language pr insan ko HINDU aur Musalman banaty ho to India my to 35 Crors Muslims hindi bolty hi kya wo sb HINDU ho gayee......

Rhi baat calling ki to my agr ap ko Urdu my BHAI, Hindi my BHAIYA, English my Brother, Arabic my AKHOO, Farsi my Be-rather bolo sb ik hi meaning rkty hi Agr my Arabic bolo to kya my Arabi ho gaya, Agr my Farsi bolo to kya my IRANI Shiya ho gaya.................Kamal krto bhaiya ap bhi.......

In last wo "khoobsoorat de de...don ko mafi de de" bcoz of my bad urdu...Sorry for tht..

Re: SAFEENA baji: May bhi ap ko baji khny pr bhi yaha kisi ko iteraz ho...bt thnks for ur comments...........

With Rgds

Ur Bro

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Posted on:14th Aug 2007, 2:59am
 

Read Carefully & Improve Yourself!

kim84 mai samajhta hon k tumnay jo kuch kia galat kia hai,u are only promoting hindi and hinduism,koi bi hindu apki poetry read kar k proud (fakhar) feel kar sakta hai or ye soch sakta hai k "Lo ye islam hai, to i am proud to be a hindu". o bhai kisi ko muslim to kar nai sakty to kisi ko hindu banany ki koshish kyo kar rahy ho. apko itna hi shok hai to hamary pyaray nabi Muhammad (s.a.w) ki pyari ahadith ka reference do, kim bro ap kia samajhty ho k hadith say ziada tumhari ye behuda poetry kisi insan par asar karay gi??

safeena yaad rakhain k galat kaam ko suppport karnay wala/wali bi gunahgar hotay hain,or muje nahi lagta k apnay is poetry ko support kar k koi akalmandi  ya koi sawaab ka kaam kia hai.agar ap samajhti ho k poetry bohat achi hai to it means k apkay khayal say kisi ko samjhnay k liye ahadith ya qurani ayat ki bajaey hindu ideology/mythology ki examples deni chahiye??

safeena apka dil acha hai lekin ap extremism ki taraf ja rahi ho.
according to hazrat ayesha "mai ap(s.a.w) kay peechay chali, yahan tak ap(saw) bakih mai aye aap nay 3 martaba hath utha kar lambi dua mangi" (sunan an-nisai 2036, Sahi Muslim 974/103)
insano/oliya ki kabro par ja kar oliya k liye dua mangna bilkul SAHI hai lekin oliya SAY dua manga ya madad mangna ye shirk hai and yes Muhammad (saw) nay kabro ko pukhta karna say mana farmaya hai. as far as i know Qwali ma bohat music hota or daf k ilava koi bi music bajana acha kam nai hai. or dua Allah say ki jati hai is liye dua mangnay k liye kahin bi mu kia ja sakta hai bcoz Allah is everywhere.inshort kabar ki taraf mu karna zaroori nahi.

kim i disagree k koi insan agar kisi country mai hai to wo apni ma ko maata ji kehny lagy, kia ab ap apni mother ko mata jee or father ko pita jee kehtay ho or behan ko dede kehtay ho??? ya ye dede ka word sirf dosro ki behno k liye use kartay ho?
khangi
  2nd post mai apki sari batain achi nai hain.

kim84 Group: Members  Joined: 02nd Aug, 2007  Topic: 113  Post: 786  Age:  29  
Posted on:14th Aug 2007, 3:23am
 

Re JOSH:

Josh bhai ap k comments sy mjy andaz huwa k ap sirf language k mamlay mjh sy dis-agree krty hi baki sb batein ap ny theek aur mry mutabiq ki......

Languages: My ye nhi kehta k my ny bahir ki duniya dekhi hi to my aisa hoo ya me apni tareef kr rha ho........I saw more the 10 countries.....Sb jaga musalman hindu sikh chiristine mily..........Kisi ko my ny Adab kiya kisi ko salam kisi ko Hi kisi ko Namasty.................IMAN language sy nhi ata DIL sy ata hi....

Rgds

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Posted on:14th Aug 2007, 3:39am
 

tumhari akal par matam hi kia ja sakta hai!

kim84 read my previous and this post again n again.
i am totally against your fazool kind of poetry and your comparison of muslims with hindu.
u are only promoting hinduism.
If you have guts, to hamary pyaray nabi Muhammad (s.a.w) ki pyari ahadith ka reference day kar logo ko convince karo.
tum hindus ko apny hindu hony par proud feel karnay ka moka day rahay ho.
i totally oppose your dirty poetry.
and still you couldn't reply my question: as you are living outside pakistan from the last so many years,,, kia ab ap apni ma ko mata jee or father ko pita jee kehtay ho or behan ko dede kehtay ho??? ya ye dede ka word sirf dosro ki behno k liye use kartay ho, jinko actually tum behan nahi samajhty?

kim84 Group: Members  Joined: 02nd Aug, 2007  Topic: 113  Post: 786  Age:  29  
Posted on:14th Aug 2007, 4:32am
 

Josh - Hosh!

Yes kbi kbi my apni mom ko pyar sy mata ji-ya mata shiri bolata ho.........sis ko kbi sis kehta ho kbi de de kbi behna kbi dude....

My sirf ap ko yee convence kr rha ho k........pyar sy ap kisi bi language my kisi ko bi bolayeee......maksad pyar jatlana hota hi.........Agr my ap ko JOsh Bhai ki jga Josh Bro kahoo.....to baat to wohi huwi...Izat dil my honi chayee....Angrezoo k alfaz istimal krny pr ap loog nhi shermati aur indians (Yaha me hindo nhi kahonaga bcoz a lot of Indian muslims laso using hindi language) k words istimal krty waqt uchalty ho.....

Islam hmy sb ko barabar ki nigah sy dekhny ko kehta hi....Agr itna islami hona hi to fir ham sb Arabic my bat krni chayee..bcoz wo Quran ki zaban hi....Islam my zban-rang-nasal ko nhi dekha jata balky akhuwat-aur-bhai chary ko dekha jata hi........

In last agr is forum pr my kisi ko sister ya brother nhisamjhta to kab ka OOULL-FOULL bak kr ja chuka hota........Bt jesa my ny bola na izzat dil my hoti hi....Ap poch sakty hi kisi bhi lady ya gent sy is forum pr...mry communication my khi bhi kisi males ya female ko aisa mehsoos huwa ho k my ny kuch border crossing ki ho to ap mjy kasoor war tehra sakty hi....

Aur yha HINDU ko support nhi kya ja rha...Balky  ik HINDU muslims sy iltija kr rha hi k jo kaam hm krty hi wo tum loog bi krty ho to hm dono my farq kya..

SAFEENA sis: ka post check krooo unhoo ny mri dil ki baat khi hi........lagta hi tum logo ko sirf tankeed krna atii hi....Chayee baat tum logo ko smjh a bi jayee...chayee baat theek bhi ho tankeed zaroor krni hi.....

Kher Allah ap logo ko hadyat dy....Samjhny waly samjh gyeee

Allah Hafiz

faisee Group: Active Members  Joined: 13th Feb, 2007  Topic: 79  Post: 776  Age:  30  
Posted on:14th Aug 2007, 12:08pm
 

Re: kim

aap nai reply kia, but main buhut ziada comment nahin karoon ga because first understand the purpose of your post and then your own reply. In your reply once you said kai bars, disco main janay ki bajaye aram sai movie dekh laita hoon, tu janab islam kab kehta hai kai aap bars main na jayen tu movie dekh lain. aur phir aap nai hindu ki faryad ki hai, tu indian movies tu hindu bhi dekhtay hain aur aap muslim bhi, faraq kia hua?? ab yeh na kehna kai indian muslim bhi dekhtay hain.

yahan agar aap nai comparison kia bhi hai habits ka tu pakistani logon ka kia hai, muslims ka nahin. ab aap aik pakistani, balkay uae main hain. aap bhi indian movies dekhtay hain, ab hindu agar yeh kahay kai islam main movie ya fahash movie dekhna jaiz hai tu kia yeh sahee hai ??(indian movies ko fehash theek kaha hai, fahashi sirf porn graded movies hi nahin hai, aap jantay hain kai aap apnay father kai saath beth kar bhi yeh movie nahin dekh saktay).

actually we people are muslim by granted. becoz we born in muslim family. we didnt accept it by heart. islam ki har restriction hamain galay ka phanda lagtee hai. ham islam ko apnay saath is liye lagaye phirtay hain takay jahan moqa mila faida utha lain. If you still want to see true muslims, talk to converted western muslims, jin logon nai dil sai islam qabool kia hai. they will tell you what the islam is.

ham pakistani muslims tu hain laikin sirf naam kai. ham muslim tu hain laikin namaz nahin parhtay, ham muslim tu hain laikin fahash movies dekhtay hain, ham muslim tu hain laikin sood khatay hain, ham muslim tu hain laikin rozay chor ditay hain, ham muslim tu hain laikin galian detay hain, ham muslim tu hain na mehram laikin larkion ko buri nigah sai dekthay hain tu yeh konsa islam hai...is paragraph main aap muslim ki bajaye pakistani replace kar dain, because yeh sab aik aajkal ka pakistani tu kar sakta hai muslim nahin.

aap agar pakstani hain tu aap ko embassador hona chahiye aur apnay muslim methods ko promote karna chahiye na kai same wahi kaam karain jo hindu bhi kartay hain. main nai kaha tha na "kai 2 minute ki sentimental post tu kar dee aap nai, laikin kaash khud ko role model banaya hota"

rahee baat indian muslims ki, tu janab woh bhi buhut achi urdu boltay hain, aur aap ko buhut sai indian hindu bhi milay hon gai jinhain urdu ko buhut pasand kartay hain. sirf aik pakistani hain jinhain apni har cheez buri lagtee hai.

agar aap waqai is post main sachay hain, aur maan lia aap ka post karnay ka maqsad muslims ko jagana hai, tu aaj aap sai promise karain kai har woh kaam chor dain gai jo hindu sai related ho. har woh kaam. azmaish ka waqt shuru ho gaya hai.
kim84 Group: Members  Joined: 02nd Aug, 2007  Topic: 113  Post: 786  Age:  29  
Posted on:14th Aug 2007, 12:31pm
 

Re Faisee:

Thanks Bhai..........

Wesy ap ka kam hi keday nikalna...aur mra kaam hi keday marna......hehhhhe

Ab lo suno.......Jesa k zna jesy baday gunnah sy bachany k liyee chota gunnah musht-zani sahi hi...........isi trah bars my jany sy ik comic-action chaye indian ho ya hollywood ki movie dekhna mery mutabik theek hi....

ROLE MODEL: Kisi ny islam kabool kiya fir ik aam admi 100% islami asoolo pr chalta rha to woo kbi ROLE MODEL nhi ban sakta...EXAMPLE: Junaid Jamseed deen pr chalny laga likin us ny TV pr ana .....apni awaz ko use krna naat k liyee nhi chorda kyn.............bcoz aj kal k fast daur my kisi masjid k konay my ja kr ap ROLE MODEL nhi ban saktay...

Jesa Junaid Jamsheed ny khud kaha k my in Singers/Tv waloo sy ghul mill kr in ko Allah ki traf bolana hi..........

Myy yee nhi kehta k theatre my ja kr my indian frinds ko raah-e-rast pr lata ho..bt mry baday hindu indians frineds mjy ROLE MODEL mantay hi bcoz......my un k sath ghul mil kr un ko Allah k baray my batata ho....un sy achay tareeky achy iklaq sy pesh ata hoo...wo mjy best freind mantay hi yahi nhi hm ny 2 persons ko muslims bi kiyaa.............Jst bcoz Nimaz k waqt nimaz..kaam k waqt kaam aur enjoyments k waqty enjoyment bt aisi enjoyment k jo Kabira gunnah my na ata hoo..

Agr ap ka beta ik CINEMA my movie dekhny jata hiii to wo acha ho ga....ya agr sari raat DISCO my sharab k nashy my pada rhy..........Islam my CINEMA bi jaiz nhi magr aj kal k door my agr ap 10% bi islam pr amal kry...mry khiyal my ap janati hi..................

Ap k kerday nikalny k liyeee intezar rhy ga..

Ma Salama

faisee Group: Active Members  Joined: 13th Feb, 2007  Topic: 79  Post: 776  Age:  30  
Posted on:14th Aug 2007, 12:47pm
 

Re: kim

aap ki apni baton sai hi aap ki post ka purpose khatam ho gaya hai, aur baat phir waheen a gayee hai kai jo hindu kartay hain agar wahi muslim kartay hain tu phir muslim  main faraq kia hua?? aur ab aap khud hi un differences ko bata rahay hain kai zaroori nahin yeh...zaroori nahin woh....

bhai yeh sab batain hamain bhi pata hain kai chota gunah, bara gunah....hindu bhi in gunahon ko chota aur zina ko bara hi samajhtay hain...

anyways, I wont reply anymore on this topic because its getting lengthy without any use....because jab hamaray apnay upar koi baat atee hai tu ham phir doosron ki examples daitay hain kai woh aisa kar raha hai tu main bhi kar raha hoon...I would just say kai bhai islam sirf pakistan main nahin hai, balkay ham log tu islam ko sirf use kartay hain..real islam dekhna hai tu unhain dekho jinhon nai heart sai islam ko as a whole accept kia hai... woh log aaj preach bhi kar rahay hain, logon main ghul mil bhi rahay hain aur islam per amal bhi kar rahay hain. ghulnay milnay ki jagah sirf theater nahin hai, islam ki instructions kisi khaas daur kai liye nahin hotee balkay general hotee hain. agar gair mehram ko bila satar dekhna mana hai, tu chahay woh theater ho, chota gunah ho, bara gunah ho, real life ho...har jagah mana hai..agar koi doosra muslim kar raha hai tu bhi aap nahin kar saktay.

please dont wait from myside for any more reply on this topic. thanks
kim84 Group: Members  Joined: 02nd Aug, 2007  Topic: 113  Post: 786  Age:  29  
Posted on:15th Aug 2007, 1:58am
 

Re Faisee:

Chaloo acha huwa...............ik baat to samnay aiiii

Woo yee kya tum kerrday nikalny my expert nhi werna.........Tum kerrday nikalty jatay aur my MOURTIEN spray krta jata...........heheheh.

CONCLUSION: Mry mutabiq aj kal k daur my koi 10% bhi islam pr chaly wo kamiyab hi.........Baki hr koi apny garyeban my jhanky ....

Ma salama

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